User talk:GreenMeansGo/Archive 1
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Louisville
Hi! Now I can't see Louisville among the most important cities of the world and compare to the others. Paducah, for example, is too small to be there.--Risto hot sir (talk) 14:07, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Eh. Paducah is certainly not one of the most important cities in the world, but it's got 100k people in its micropolitan area, and there are about a hundred pages in w:Category:People from Paducah, Kentucky. So there's definitely a significant possibility of creating a fairly large number of pages to add to the category. In comparison, I did not create Category:People from La Grange, Kentucky, for William J. Crowe. With 8k people, that town doesn't even have it's own enwiki category, much less a category for people. So it would almost certainly be destined to remain a category with a single page probably forever. GMGtalk 14:12, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- There's also the psychological point to show the main cities by one look: one may wonder "Why my city has so few notable people" and the person might do something to it.--Risto hot sir (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, ideally, if someone from or interested that area happens along, hopefully they realize there's 100 Wikipedia articles and only one Wikiquote. So it's a big space that needs filling out. GMGtalk 16:34, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- When I searched American novelists I couldn't find Hunter S. Thompson easily, so it's obvious that there must be Category American novelists, etc., also.--Risto hot sir (talk) 19:54, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that Thompson should be both in Category:American novelists as well as Category:Novelists from Kentucky? That's not really how categories work, and as far as I'm aware, WQ doesn't have a categorization policy that differs from en.wiki. Thompson is already in Category:American novelists because Category:Novelists from Kentucky is in that category, and he is in Category:Novelists from Kentucky. The same way you wouldn't add Thomson to Category:Authors, because he's already in there by virtue of the categories he's already in. GMGtalk 20:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- While I believe you are correct in your statements (meaning that a person only belongs in the subcategory and not in both the sub and a higher category), this does highlight one issue with such narrow categorization. There may be people who are unaware where a given novelist (or any other subcategory) is from. This is what I was hinting at with my comments in the below section - I don't really see what value we are providing to users by identifying Hunter S. Thompson as a novelist from Kentucky as opposed to just an American novelist (as well as being in a category for people from Kentucky). It's not that any of it is technically incorrect, but I still fail to see the utility of it - and in fact it may make it harder for some to find the pages they are looking for. This is of course less of a problem for someone as well known as Thompson, but for more obscure people it would make it harder if someone were looking for a sampling of American novelists for example, without knowing from which state they are from. ~ UDScott (talk) 20:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Obviously it's pretty difficult to imagine a scenario where someone would look for Hunter S. Thompson by searching through the category tree without just typing in his name. If someone were just sampling, there are tools for that. As far as I know Pet Scan can do pretty much anything imaginable. And ideally Thompson should eventually end up in Category:Writers from Louisville, Kentucky, since w:Category:Writers from Louisville, Kentucky has 153 entries, presumably many/most of which are quotable.
- I also fail to see how Category:American novelists with almost 500 entries in it is useful for much of anything. But apparently folks are just going to follow me around reverting my edits because for some reason WQ doesn't want to use category trees the same way every single other project does. GMGtalk 21:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- While I believe you are correct in your statements (meaning that a person only belongs in the subcategory and not in both the sub and a higher category), this does highlight one issue with such narrow categorization. There may be people who are unaware where a given novelist (or any other subcategory) is from. This is what I was hinting at with my comments in the below section - I don't really see what value we are providing to users by identifying Hunter S. Thompson as a novelist from Kentucky as opposed to just an American novelist (as well as being in a category for people from Kentucky). It's not that any of it is technically incorrect, but I still fail to see the utility of it - and in fact it may make it harder for some to find the pages they are looking for. This is of course less of a problem for someone as well known as Thompson, but for more obscure people it would make it harder if someone were looking for a sampling of American novelists for example, without knowing from which state they are from. ~ UDScott (talk) 20:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that Thompson should be both in Category:American novelists as well as Category:Novelists from Kentucky? That's not really how categories work, and as far as I'm aware, WQ doesn't have a categorization policy that differs from en.wiki. Thompson is already in Category:American novelists because Category:Novelists from Kentucky is in that category, and he is in Category:Novelists from Kentucky. The same way you wouldn't add Thomson to Category:Authors, because he's already in there by virtue of the categories he's already in. GMGtalk 20:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- When I searched American novelists I couldn't find Hunter S. Thompson easily, so it's obvious that there must be Category American novelists, etc., also.--Risto hot sir (talk) 19:54, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, ideally, if someone from or interested that area happens along, hopefully they realize there's 100 Wikipedia articles and only one Wikiquote. So it's a big space that needs filling out. GMGtalk 16:34, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- There's also the psychological point to show the main cities by one look: one may wonder "Why my city has so few notable people" and the person might do something to it.--Risto hot sir (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Categories Authors, Americans, English people and so on are useless 'cause they're too vast, American novelists is not. And when you've found Thompson you'll see he's from Kentucky without a new category.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- And...if you see he's from Kentucky, presumably you'll have an indication that he's American? Category:19th century births has less entries than Category:American novelists. Should we then add Category:19th century births to every page in that category? GMGtalk 21:29, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I think this discussion is wandering a bit. I'll desist for now. I do agree with the original topic which is to only show a subcategory for a person not both the sub and the larger one (i.e. people from Kentucky, but not Americans). Should all of the writers in the category of being from Louisville end up with pages here, then your categorization works just fine and the same with other similar categories. I just meant that usually I would not expect such categorization to appear until there were enough pages to warrant them. In our current state it seemed a bit excessive. But I am not against them. So have at it - perhaps my fears are unfounded. (And by the way, I obviously do not think Hunter Thompson is a good test case for this discussion and no I would not expect anyone to hunt for him through a category tree - it was just the person that had already been mentioned). Good luck with it... ~ UDScott (talk) 21:36, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well, given that RHS has gone behind me apparently and added parent categories to lord know how many pages that I've categorized today, I suppose I'll open up a discussion at VP, because I've still got about a thousand pages Category:Americans that I was planning to clean up, and I'm not going to do that if someone is going to throw xwiki categorization to the wind and faithfully come behind me and undo everything. GMGtalk 21:39, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I think this discussion is wandering a bit. I'll desist for now. I do agree with the original topic which is to only show a subcategory for a person not both the sub and the larger one (i.e. people from Kentucky, but not Americans). Should all of the writers in the category of being from Louisville end up with pages here, then your categorization works just fine and the same with other similar categories. I just meant that usually I would not expect such categorization to appear until there were enough pages to warrant them. In our current state it seemed a bit excessive. But I am not against them. So have at it - perhaps my fears are unfounded. (And by the way, I obviously do not think Hunter Thompson is a good test case for this discussion and no I would not expect anyone to hunt for him through a category tree - it was just the person that had already been mentioned). Good luck with it... ~ UDScott (talk) 21:36, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
New categories
Just some questions: With respect to all the new categories you have added, do you plan to add similar ones for other parts of the country or world? It seems like an awful lot of bureaucracy simply to more narrowly classify people from Kentucky. Many of these categories appear to me to be a bit of overkill in classification of people. Is there really such a demand for knowing such minutia about people? I'm not really seeing a lot of value in having such narrowly specific categories. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:32, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well, now that I've gotten into the matter a bit deeper than I had actually intended to, I considered having a look at diffusing Category:Americans into Category:People by state in the United States, since there's about a thousand under categorized pages there that would make work on the bottom end of the tree more useful. I hadn't planned on expanding beyond the United States honestly, and at the very least trying to make it far enough into the US that it set up a fairly good outline where others can fill in any gaps as they see fit.
- I'd made it a point to try to pick some particular thing to accomplish on WQ per day and try to finish it before I started doing work on en.wiki or commons. So my goal for today was to wrap up Kentucky neatly, and then probably do a look over w:Category:People from Kentucky by occupation to see if there were any obvious candidates to fill out the categories with pages here. GMGtalk 14:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
VFD process
The process for VFDs is spelled out here - no need to "cobble together" the template. If you need further help, feel free to ask. ~ UDScott (talk) 19:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- In preview it just pointed to the first VfD by default, so I had to make it point to a second one. GMGtalk 19:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, my bad - didn't realize it was the 2nd nomination (I read it as you weren't sure about the template). Sorry - carry on...~ UDScott (talk) 19:54, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
My Cousin Schuyler
What was wrong with my edit to the Shrek page? It was funny because my cousin Schuyler was in it.
- If you continue to vandalize pages you will be blocked from editing. GMGtalk 15:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- 1. Sign your comment.
- 2. What is this "Cousin Schuyler" nonsense? WikiLubber (talk) 02:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- WikiLubber, apparently a child who was busy inserting mildly crude references to their cousin on random pages. Seems to have found his toys and gone off to play proper like a normal child instead of vandalizing websites. GMGtalk 19:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Toy Story Edit
Actually my grandmother made me apologize for doing that stuff. I'm really sorry and I won't vandalize any more pages :)
Unblock me
Unblock me on Wikipedia right now or I'll find out where you live and kill you. I have a shotgun in my basement and I ain't afraid to use it. - All the best, WhenDatHotlineBling
- I am more well armed than you are, and a better shot to boot. I guarantee it. All the best. GMGtalk 14:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Busy day, thank You for all the revertings! But there's something good also, found many missing datas and links.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Busy day indeed. Always good to have a few stewards at arm's length. For my own part, I've managed to get Category:Americans from about 900 down to about 400. Figure I'll have it cleaned out in a week or two. Maybe then I can do a bit of writing. Thanks for all your help and hard work. GMGtalk 22:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Green means go I will take you up on the offer Ruskin (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Ruskin. Thanks for working to help us improve the project! If I can ever be of any help feel free to drop by. Happy editing! GMGtalk 19:54, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment
I can't understand why you deleted my "spammy" links but left the quotes I added thanks to them... Strange consistency... —This unsigned comment is by Markj2 (talk • contribs) 11:33, 14 November 2018.
- Hey Markj2. From what I can tell, Kwise appears to be simply a generic website, hosting apparently user generated content, possibly taken from Wikiquote itself. It's difficult to tell very much information about them really, because they offer basically none, but it's not clear that they should be considered a reliable educational resource, of the type we typically want to favor when providing readers with external links.
- If I misread your intentions then I apologize. Often when we see people who are repeatedly adding links to a particular website, it's because they are affiliated with that site, and they are trying to funnel traffic there. Of course that's not always the case, and it may just be that a user is a consumer of the site themselves, and in good faith feels that they are a useful addition. Again, if I misinterpreted your intentions I apologize. We certainly want you to continue to contribute, and help us build a better collection of verifiable high-quality quotes. If there's ever any way I can help please feel free to reach out to me. GMGtalk 11:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey GreenMeansGo I can't be dishonest with you and tell you that my intentions are absolutely pure, but I have seen many links that seemed quite the same to me (especially from shmoop), so I added them. I will also defend the project by saying that it is not absolutely generic in my opinion because it tries to go further, by giving translation information or semantic similarities as you can see here for example Jean-Jacques Rousseau quote on talking. I hope that one day Kwize will have excellent contributors like you ;-). Markj2
- Well, like all Wikimedia projects, Wikiquote is a perpetual work in progress, and the way things are is not always the best indicator of the way things should be. Incidentally, as far as I can tell, every link to shmoop on Wikiquote has since been removed. GMGtalk 12:32, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
AldezD
This editor reverts links to Wikiquote at Wikipedia (Married... with Children, for example). What to do?--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:06, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hmm.. Not totally clear what the issue is. User:AldezD, you do realize the sister link template for Wikquote is transcluded some 30,000 times on the English Wikipedia. (The sister link template for Commons is transcended some 800,000 times). You do realize the use of these links is actively encouraged by Wikpedia's guidelines? GMGtalk 21:24, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
AldezD keeps on vandalizingǃ Maybe if you'll link the Married...with children articles he will stop.--Risto hot sir (talk) 11:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Give me a little while to get things together and I'll open a more central discussion at w:Wikipedia talk:External links. GMGtalk 12:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Congratulations
Congratulations, GreenMeansGo. You are now an administrator on the English Wikiquote. Cheers! BD2412 T 15:33, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- A happy dayǃ--Risto hot sir (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks everybody. GMGtalk 18:58, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Links again
Hi administratorǃ There's a lot more discussion behind the link above.--Risto hot sir (talk) 14:02, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah. I've got it on my watchlist on English Wikipedia. I've been reading as the discussion has progressed and considering what the best approach might be. I'm just not sure I want to comment yet until I've completely settled on exactly what it is I want to say that will have the greatest rhetorical strength. Commentary sometimes has an inflationary aspect, where the greater the volume of commentary available the less each is worth. GMGtalk 14:15, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinions thereǃ - The only disagreement between us as far as I can remember was the categorizing by US States. I don't object that, but Novelists from Kentucky, for example, should also be in the category American novelists. That's Wikiquote's strength compared to Wikipedia - to have them all in one place.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I dunno. It's hard to really tell what categories are warranted until we're done filtering down some of the highest level parent categories. GMGtalk 21:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinions thereǃ - The only disagreement between us as far as I can remember was the categorizing by US States. I don't object that, but Novelists from Kentucky, for example, should also be in the category American novelists. That's Wikiquote's strength compared to Wikipedia - to have them all in one place.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Exactlyǃ--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:16, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Regular Show
Hi GreenMeansGo, The worst thing about Cartoon Network is not that they cancels Regular Show, Adventure Time and Gumball, if not the 4,000 daily infommercials of products. Thanks --190.247.31.32 15:00, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't really deal with pop culture topics. I don't have television and I don't use social media. But I can recommend a good book or two. GMGtalk 15:01, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Well, I'm not care about the cancellation of Regular Show, Adventure Time and Gumball because at any moment the three series appears with an episode called Crossover Nexus from OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes. --186.12.105.137 22:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't have much of an opinion on the shows really. I'm pretty sure my daughter watches them on her tablet occasionally. I do have a strong opinion about edit warring, that opinion is pretty well summed up in saying that you shouldn't do it, and if you do, your liable to be blocked until you learn not to. GMGtalk 23:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Hitchens
Hi againǃ This time I've quarrel with Hitchens at Wikipedia. A couple of editors really think that an atheism activist can be a skeptic, too. What do you think, my beloved administrator?--Risto hot sir (talk) 03:12, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- I did read some of Hitchens' books but it's probably been ten years. He was generally a skeptic, besides being basically a professional political dissident, he was also generally skeptical of anything remotely metaphysical or spiritual not necessarily confined to organized religion. He did get much of his notoriety later in life when he joined ranks with the new atheism movement and people like Dawkins, but he had a much longer career than just that. The new atheism movement didn't really start to get major traction until probably around 2010, and Hitchens started publishing in the 70s and 80s.
- You also have to keep in mind that just because someone rejects the Judaeo-Christian God doesn't necessarily mean that you adhere to strict w:Materialism. You can believe in the metaphysical without believing in a god, although obviously it's difficult to define a recognizable god unless you also believe in some non-physical plane of existence. GMGtalk 11:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, thought skeptic to religion, but you can be skeptic to anything, governments, bankers, climate change, women etc. This category at Wikipedia doesn't tell much.--Risto hot sir (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well, yes, technically. No person can hold that all possible propositions are simultaneously true. That's pretty much inherent in the definition of truth, and the fact that an infinite number of mutually exclusive (even ludicrously so) propositions can be constructed. Umm... to take the most oversimplified example possible, "1 = 1" and "1 = 7" are propositions that cannot possibly be simultaneously true. Those who ascribe to the principles of "one-ness" are by definition skeptical of a literally infinite number of alternative propositions.
- But that's applying a dictionary definition in an exercise of absurdist reductionism. Skepticism in the philosophical sense has a more specific meaning, in particular a deeply post-enlightenment stance that anything can in principle be doubted for which one can find reason to doubt, and that things like authority or tradition are not valid reasons to circumscribe areas where doubt is not permitted. That had obvious implications for the teaching of the church, but also for science and philosophy, and led to some of the more absurd forms of radical empiricism.
- It is this post-enlightenment meaning of skepticism that is normally referred to when calling someone a skeptic, and yes, does often manifest in relation to religion or metaphysics, but also in other areas. Hitchens himself was once a fairly radical Marxist before basically entirely abandoning it, while many throughout history have held to various forms of Marxism in very much a quasi-religious faith-based way. GMGtalk 12:49, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, thought skeptic to religion, but you can be skeptic to anything, governments, bankers, climate change, women etc. This category at Wikipedia doesn't tell much.--Risto hot sir (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Please see Special:Contributions/69.92.186.111
Thanks, Vermont (talk) 01:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- This too. Vermont (talk) 01:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hey sorry man. Looks like I was pretty afk at the time. Looks like someone else got one and the other has gone stale. But feel free to drop by any time I can help. GMGtalk 13:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Request
Hello, I have a small request. Can you delete my talk page? Thanks! Jianhui67 (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Done GMGtalk 17:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for deleting and protecting my talk page! Haha I wonder what the IP wrote this time. He said he would return and recreate my talk page hehe. Jianhui67 (talk) 03:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. It was basically just recreating the page because you didn't want them to. GMGtalk 10:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for deleting and protecting my talk page! Haha I wonder what the IP wrote this time. He said he would return and recreate my talk page hehe. Jianhui67 (talk) 03:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Range blocks
This is simpler than the explanation you wiki linked to. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ah. Thanks. There was an admin from id.wiki who was trying to walk me through it on IRC. GMGtalk 11:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah. It’s pretty simple: the lower the number, the more addresses blocked. For IPv6, there’s no reason to block individual IPs: just block the /64 (think of an IPv6 /64 as the same as an IPv4 single IP). The lower the number, the more cautious you should be about blocking ranges. It doesn’t mean that you won’t sometimes need to block an IPv4 /16 or IPv6 /32, but those should be done with caution. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:47, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ideally I wouldn't need to deal with it enough to figure out how it works, but we'll see how that works out. For the time being, I'll still most likely reach out to someone on IRC any time I need to do one to double check that I've not screwed something up. GMGtalk 16:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Feel free to ping me if you need help. I'm not in -en these days unless someone says they need an admin/funct there, but I'm usually in -stewards and assorted other channels. I used to hate range blocks, but you eventually get the hang of them. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ideally I wouldn't need to deal with it enough to figure out how it works, but we'll see how that works out. For the time being, I'll still most likely reach out to someone on IRC any time I need to do one to double check that I've not screwed something up. GMGtalk 16:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah. It’s pretty simple: the lower the number, the more addresses blocked. For IPv6, there’s no reason to block individual IPs: just block the /64 (think of an IPv6 /64 as the same as an IPv4 single IP). The lower the number, the more cautious you should be about blocking ranges. It doesn’t mean that you won’t sometimes need to block an IPv4 /16 or IPv6 /32, but those should be done with caution. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:47, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Several vandals afoot...
Aside from the Toy Story/Shrek vandal, we have 68.201.9.142, 86.179.83.52, Stopthebuyers, Wewillbuythisplace, etc.
- 68.201.9.142-- Absolute nonsense, changing certain networks to PBS without explanation.
- 86.179.83.52, Stopthebuyers, Wewillbuythisplace-- Redoing vandalism, unlawfully bullying Tegel, spamming, trying to defend other vandals, the works. I request all of these users be blocked infinitely and the pages they vandalized be protected indefinitely, as well as my talk page, your talk page, Jni's talk page, etc. WikiLubber (talk) 02:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- It looks like one of them is already blocked and the other has gone stale. I did a range block calculation on them a few days ago, and unfortunately we'd have to range block something like 250 million IP addresses to get them all. So that's not really feasible. GMGtalk 23:51, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Protection
I recommend you and all admins involved in the IP vandals' vandalism protect their pages for at no less than a year (and mine, too, just in case, since it is my messages they keep trying to remove without explaining why). WikiLubber (talk) 18:29, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Per your request, I have semi-protected your user page. I'd prefer to leave mine open as much as possible in case an anonymous user has a legitimate concern. The random pings from the IP troll don't really bother me any. I get pings all the time from all kinds of places. Other admins can certainly decide whether the bother is worth the protection or not. GMGtalk 13:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Category question
Just wondering...in past conversations you had said that you were adding a number of more specific categories in an attempt to align with other projects. But in your most recent additions, this is not the case -- you added Category:Catholics from France when the corresponding WP category is French Catholics (which to me is a much more natural way to describe the people within this category). What was your rationale for this choice? ~ UDScott (talk) 15:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- There was a previous discussion at the village pump here regarding the use of demonyms in category names. Across projects, there are a few varieties of systems. Some use "place of birth" systems, which English projects tend not to do in my experience. For those that use "person associated with" systems some use demonyms and some do not. In the VP discussion I proposed using the non-demonym-system as Commons does, rather than the demonym-system as the English Wikipedia attempts to do, but fails to do consistently. The reason behind that was mainly that a demonym system can't be accomplished consistently without ending up with some awkward (and at times racist sounding) constructions like Category:Japanese, or constructions that are factually incorrect, like Category:Americans used in the vernacular to refer to people from the United States, rather than America proper.
- If you compare Wikidata items, such as m:Q3919762, you'll find that projects are fairly split on the issue. For example, comparing gl:Categoría:Personalidades dos Estados Unidos de América, de:Kategorie:US-Amerikaner, and ht:Kategori:Ameriken. Both demonym and non-demonym systems can be used, but the non-demonym system used by Commons tends to be more consistently semantically accurate and technically correct. GMGtalk 16:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough - thanks for the explanation. Cheers! ~ UDScott (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- The United States categories instead of Americans is a good idea, many thanksǃ- U.S. is only 1/4 of America. At Wikipedia this kind of work would be impossible anymore, I guess.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oh god yes. The English Wikipedia is way too far gone to switch to a system that makes sense. Even if you could get consensus for it, which you couldn't, you're talking about probably hundreds of millions of changes that would need to be done. Here it's probably under 100k. I've almost done with three major countries and I think I'm still under 10k edits. Commons has the advantage of being a multilingual community where people will speak up and say "that's not what American means". GMGtalk 23:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- The United States categories instead of Americans is a good idea, many thanksǃ- U.S. is only 1/4 of America. At Wikipedia this kind of work would be impossible anymore, I guess.--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough - thanks for the explanation. Cheers! ~ UDScott (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Exclude elements A/b testing
Systems Service & Hazard Communication Standards. Joint Test Action Group Heterodoxy. Auxallryduck (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Wp-block
Hi GMGǃ Got a block at en-Wikipedia for linking to Wikiquote. I think it's unfair. I'd be glad if you could look at my wp-talk pageǃ--Risto hot sir (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- The block was not for "linking to Wikiquote", it was for "Personal attacks, inability to get the point, blocks on four other wikimedia projects suggest AGF has run out a while ago". I am agnostic on whether you are unable to get the point or are able but unwilling, but I agree that the behavior us unacceptable. Remember what GreenMeansGo said on your talk page last month: "You would also be well advised to consider that if you make cross-wiki disruption, the solution is to have a steward lock your account across all projects." When someone is already indefinitely blocked on so many projects, the stewards may do this routinely upon any request. Be warned that it may take only one more complaint to end your participation globally. Play nicely and do not get into arguments. ~ Ningauble (talk) 22:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks but I've edited 380 wikis and had trouble only in about 10. And in most of those "difficult" wikis there seems to be one dominant person who thinks he/she is the community.--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC) - Do you have something negative to say of my work here?--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- There'really not much I can do. I'm not an admin on en.wiki, and any given admin is unlikely to lift the block given that it was placed by a functionary after a topic ban from one of the probably top ten most respected admins on the project. The best course of action is probably to stop arguing with people and listen to what they're telling you. I'm not sure you take it appropriately seriously that one of our global sysops has already raised the possibility of a global block. GMGtalk 14:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks but I've edited 380 wikis and had trouble only in about 10. And in most of those "difficult" wikis there seems to be one dominant person who thinks he/she is the community.--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC) - Do you have something negative to say of my work here?--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, it's better to concentrate in proverbs, so I won't get in the middle of Hindu-Muslim fights. My only intention was to check and add categories and bring more people to read Wq.--Risto hot sir (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
You've got mail
Hi GMG, could you please check your mail asap? Thanks! --TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:24, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Mail yet again
Please check your mail asap. Thanks! --TheSandDoctor (talk) 12:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Please block
Special:Contribs/71.226.134.132 for block evasion and being a general pain in the ass vandal. Praxidicae (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Done And thanks for keep an eye out. GMGtalk 14:10, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Another IP vandal...
IP user 98.214.101.235 is constantly adding categories that are absolutely wrong to certain series.
- Examples:
- It refers to Alvin and the Chipmunks (1983 TV series) as a Cartoon Network show, but that series was cancelled BEFORE Cartoon Network even existed!
- It refers to certain anime series as American TV shows, but none of them are!
- It refers to some anime series as cancelled shows, but virtually none of them are!
I request that this user be blocked indefinitely and that all of its edits be undone. There are so many, I cannot do it alone. WikiLubber (talk) 15:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
I have a question
I have a question. Does green mean go? (Sorry, I couldn't resist making a stupid joke. I hope you're having a great trip!) Alden Loveshade (talk) 17:03, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
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Although the deletion discussion closed on August 30 it still hasn't been deleted. Bringing this up because an [SPA account recently removed the Deletion discussion tag. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:44, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey GPL93. Yeah. A lot of new editors think that removing a deletion banner will help save the page, when really it's there to do just the opposite, advertise the discussion to readers in the case that on of them can save the page from deletion. As far as the VfD discussion, since I started it, I probably should be the person to close it, since that look improper (although it seems certain the article will be deleted). But things can be more slow moving here. We a much smaller project than the English Wikipedia with much fewer administrators. GMGtalk 18:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Weird Signals for S.P.
Hi GreenMeansGo. Thanks for blocking the user I warned. Also the people I warned's edits are so alike, and they're all about mobile phones and I.think they're all the same vandal...😀 ——Blessings, Josephina (talk) 23:15, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Josephine. Yes, these configurations are part of a fairly well known cross-wiki bot farm (e.g., FIRSTNAMELASTNAME##). They may take a little while to spot, but if you hang around you'll definitely get the hang of them. But I'm not going to ever fault you for erring on the side of being friendly, because being friendly is what makes a community. GMGtalk 23:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
mind blocking
This ip? They're causing disruption in numerous places, including here Praxidicae (talk) 18:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Block
Delete User:Hanan6533 and block the user please. Thanks! ——Blessings, Josephina (talk) 09:32, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Josephine W.: Looks like someone already got to it. In the future, you can nominate pages for speedy deletion using Template:Db. GMGtalk 00:39, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hope you have a nice trip. Blessings! ——Blessings, Josephina (talk) 08:35, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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WikiCon NA
Looks like I'm going to get to go to WikiCon NA again this year. For anybody who's gonna be there, feel free to shoot me an email or something and we can exchange numbers and meet up. GMGtalk 20:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Editnotices
Hi GreenMeansGo, would you like to share your thoughts about editnotices at the Village Pump? Thanks. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 08:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Protection of tp
Hello, Could you please protect my tp and hide some revisions. Thanks! 1997kB (talk) 12:50, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
WikiLumber
There is a user named WikiLumber who is clearly trying to make me look like a fool and make outrageous unsubstantiated claims that a certain IP vandal is autistic. I request this user be blocked infinitely for not only attacking IPs (even if that IP is a vandal) and impersonating me. WikiLubber (talk) 03:15, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Done GMGtalk 10:18, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- WikiLumber is at it again. It has created multiple accounts to try and evade its block:
- WikiLubeElbowJack
- Buster Dave
- WikiBlabber
- They all have the same M.O. as WikiLumber, trying to impersonate yours truly, falsely accusing IP vandals of being autistic without proper authentication, etc., and now, welcoming its own sockpuppet accounts. I request these users be blocked infinitely, its talk page privileges are revoked, and its account creation is permanently disabled. WikiLubber (talk) 21:21, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Are these other account actually accounts or just page creations? GMGtalk 22:11, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Definitely accounts. Otherwise, Buster Dave would not have sent them (or itself) welcome messages. WikiLubber (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Now we have a sockpuppet by the name of WikiLubricant! Please stop this vandal from making me look stupid and abusing editing privileges! WikiLubber (talk) 01:36, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- And do the same to WikiGrubber and VerdeEsMovimento, lest WikiLubricant evade its block again. WikiLubber (talk) 01:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- And WikiFlubber. WikiLubber (talk) 01:04, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- @WikiLubber: I have now created pages for sockpuppets of WikiLumber. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 08:02, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- And WIKIRubber. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 08:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
October 2019
Oh, and as for the IP vandal WikiLubber (talk) 01:42, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
, I request that vandal be blocked for no less than a year, and the articles it vandalized be protected against all IPs and the WikiLubber impostor for the same time period.- Looks like some have already been protected. I protected one that hadn't been. Looks like the user has since moved on from this IP address, and there's no indication that these are long-term recurring addresses, so blocking wouldn't actually do any good anyway. GMGtalk 14:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, blocking these IP's serves little purpose. I have taken to semi-protecting some of the target pages for a year at a time. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:24, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Help
Hi, please take a look at WQ:AN. Thank you. 大诺史 (talk) 12:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Protection
Hii, Please delete my local userpage and add indef creation protection to it. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CptViraj: Done Working on tidying everything up. GMGtalk 13:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thankyou. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CptViraj: Talk page also? GMGtalk 13:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- That would be nice, I edit this wiki only to revert vandalism and spam. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:17, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CptViraj: Talk page also? GMGtalk 13:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thankyou. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Vandalised archives
Hi. I see that an LTA has been having fun with some of your archives [1]. I have a filter for that at meta if interested, and it is readily adaptable. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:55, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: Email? GMGtalk 01:57, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Use at meta isn't especially private as all that will happen is that they vandalise a page and we add it to the filters. That said, see https://tools.wmflabs.org/paste/view/3df953ca and you will see a couple of variations depending how we want to manage, one by groups, the other by rights with groups. [The paste will disappear in a week] — billinghurst sDrewth 10:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Thoughts? (I am that guy trying to order food in Madrid with a Spanish-to-English dictionary in hand.) GMGtalk 03:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- My idea is to just protect archives. On very rare occasions, they should be edited but basically they are to remain static, so just make it so that only admins can edit them. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Thoughts? (I am that guy trying to order food in Madrid with a Spanish-to-English dictionary in hand.) GMGtalk 03:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Use at meta isn't especially private as all that will happen is that they vandalise a page and we add it to the filters. That said, see https://tools.wmflabs.org/paste/view/3df953ca and you will see a couple of variations depending how we want to manage, one by groups, the other by rights with groups. [The paste will disappear in a week] — billinghurst sDrewth 10:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
2600:1700:2A90:1A70:B109:1D40:2712:8707
Please block2600:1700:2A90:1A70:B109:1D40:2712:8707; this IP is blanking whole sections and deleting whole sections of quotes. Thank you. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 07:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry. Travelling, coming back, and packing to travel again. I'm not as responsive as I normally am at the moment. GMGtalk 03:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- It’s okay. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 03:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Can you block Kolfan and 41.36.207.75 who vandalized Help:Talk Page? Thank you again for all your work and effort. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 04:23, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please take a look at WQ:AN. Thanks. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 08:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Account blocked. Looks like they've been spamming that everywhere. The IP hasn't edited in more than a year though, so blocking it wouldn't do any good. GMGtalk 11:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please take a look at WQ:AN. Thanks. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 08:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Can you block Kolfan and 41.36.207.75 who vandalized Help:Talk Page? Thank you again for all your work and effort. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 04:23, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- It’s okay. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 03:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Please block:
- User:2603:3024:1DDE:0:C0B5:BC5F:3C8D:EB41
- User:67.百七十.192.231
- User:94drought~WlKlQuote
- User:96.64.248.61
- User:96.72.190.34
- User:AutismUser~l35.l80.76.76~SonicISP
- User:Rub-A-Dub-WikiMan
- User:TheWellLikedArturoGustavo
- User:WikiRubbler
- User:WlKlQuoteWelcomeScript.exe
- User:止\禁用 135.一八口.76.76 止\禁用
- User:108.81.228.186
- User:BoySadHouseKey1
- User:94旱魃(無雨)
Thank you. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 02:54, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Mostly done. Two of them have no global contributions, and without additional behavioral evidence or a CU, I'm not sure we can positively identify them as socks. GMGtalk 15:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Help
Hi GMG, please block WikiLMubber and 86.154.78.81. Thank you. 大诺史 (talk) 10:28, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Block
Please block with TPA revoked until we get a lock. It's that idiot Nsmutte. Praxidicae (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Thanks Praxidicae GMGtalk 20:45, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- FYI any time you get a random new account spewing some bullshit about religion, usernames or user:Bonadea it's pretty much guaranteed to be Nsmutte, an eternal pain in the ass. Praxidicae (talk) 20:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. I'm quite familiar with Nsmutte. I mean, points for persistence, but not for creativity. You can spot their socks from space. GMGtalk 21:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- You'd think after nearly a decade of their socking they'd be better at it. It really is amazing they've survived this long without being able to string together a coherent sentence. Oh, and they're back. Praxidicae (talk) 21:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- I know right? They've been hanging around English projects for so long, but I don't think their English has improved at all. GMGtalk 21:34, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- FYI any time you get a random new account spewing some bullshit about religion, usernames or user:Bonadea it's pretty much guaranteed to be Nsmutte, an eternal pain in the ass. Praxidicae (talk) 20:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Block Bicam3ralMind
Could you please block Bicam3ralMind as soon as possible? He has reverted my edits on the Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse) page six times:
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2714747
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2714773
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2715696
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2715712
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2715716
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&diff=next&oldid=2715718
He also claims that my edits are false and disruptive, but they're not. Please let me know as soon as possible. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Adam. As I indicated on the talk page there, both of you appear to be edit warring, and neither of you appear to have attempted a discussion on the dispute to try to reach a compromise and consensus. Even if you created an article yourself, no one owns any particular article on community projects like Wikiquote, and we are expected to work together, even and especially when we really don't want to, in order to produce a collaborative resource together.I'm not sure how much help I can be personally in resolving the dispute, as I don't often edit in pop-culture related areas, and focus almost exclusively on biographies, but if the two of you find yourself an an impasse after you have attempted to discuss the dispute, you may consider reaching out at the Village Pump to try to get broader input from the community. GMGtalk 13:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Changes
Hey, give me a heads-up if my changes are disruptive. I don't want to be causing trouble but at the same time, there is some serious work needing to be done and I am not afraid to get my hands dirty. :) ~riley (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not at all ~riley. We're still a small project, and like every project, we can use all the active users around we can get. Even if that just means you refresh recent changes a few times a day to do a spot check for vandalism. If you decide to hang around and get your name seen some, we could also use more users who have experience with the admin toolkit. GMGtalk 17:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
FYI
this is an xwiki spammer (see Mural19) Praxidicae (talk) 10:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am familiar with Mural. Looks like the account has gotten locked anyway and the article here has been deleted. So nothing much else to do. GMGtalk 17:12, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
.. by country categories
Hi GMG, can you help me understand the goal with categories like Category:Scientists by country in terms of standardization? Half the categories are like "German scientists" while the other half is "Scientists from Canada". Which are we wanting? ~riley (talk) 20:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- @~riley: There was a discussion at VP a while ago and the general consensus was to go with a more Commons-style non-demonym naming system. Of course, that's a pretty big task overall. So I've been working on it sporadically. The "by country" categories look all wonky right now because I've been picking a country and moving all the categories related to the country, rather than going by occupation. So for example Category:Scientists from the Netherlands has been moved, because I moved all categories related to the Netherlands earlier today. GMGtalk 20:19, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
You might consider changing MediaWiki:Recentchangestext to show their is an open Requests for bureaucratship as it currently shows 0. ~riley (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- @~riley: Done You know the funny thing, as long as I've been hanging around, and as many times and I've browsed recent changes, I have never once clicked there to show that table on the feed. It took me a second to figure out where it was supposed to display. GMGtalk 21:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- LOL! Funny how that happens. ~riley (talk) 21:47, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Please range block
The turkish IP LTA has returned, please block this range and yank talk page access. Praxidicae (talk) 15:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: Done Sigh. I wish we had a nuke button on Wikiquote. GMGtalk 15:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- You do. :) click contribs of one ip, top bar should say "mass delete" Praxidicae (talk) 15:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wait, was that added with the new block features...or have I just been stupidly going about this whole time doing things by manually opening a million tabs? GMGtalk 15:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry to say that it has been there all along (at least for a few years).. ;) ~riley (talk) 02:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm often the kind of person who figures out how to do things the way the elderly take screen shots, with a camera and a computer screen. GMGtalk 11:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry to say that it has been there all along (at least for a few years).. ;) ~riley (talk) 02:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wait, was that added with the new block features...or have I just been stupidly going about this whole time doing things by manually opening a million tabs? GMGtalk 15:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- You do. :) click contribs of one ip, top bar should say "mass delete" Praxidicae (talk) 15:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi GMG. Very, very belated thanks for your welcome and editing notes on 13 Feb 2019. Thesman123 (talk) 10:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- No problem Thesman123. Feel free to stop by if I can be of any help. GMGtalk 10:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Hy would you help me or advice on editing pages Angie williamz (talk) 03:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Please block LTA and nuke
Could you block Lauren600 locally unless they get globally locked in the meantime? Please nuke too. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 03:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Was locked, nuke still needed --DannyS712 (talk) 03:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Another obvious sock Lauren600 (alt) (talk · contributions). Could you import template noping too? Masumrezarock100 (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done for the nuke. I'm not sure I really understand how noping works honestly. GMGtalk 10:40, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Another obvious sock Lauren600 (alt) (talk · contributions). Could you import template noping too? Masumrezarock100 (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- w:en:Template:No ping template uses w:en:Module:No ping. You just need to import these two pages and their documentation pages. And while you are at it, could you block 170.211.79.189 (talk · contributions)? Looks like a LTA to me. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Blocked. I did try importing. Figure I probably can't screw up anything I can't just delete if it doesn't work right. But it looks like the tool is currently broken? I just got a MW error saying that the servers are down and to try again later. GMGtalk 15:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- w:en:Template:No ping template uses w:en:Module:No ping. You just need to import these two pages and their documentation pages. And while you are at it, could you block 170.211.79.189 (talk · contributions)? Looks like a LTA to me. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
LTAs
Hi, could you block these users:
- 86.179.153.36
- 86.179.156.192
- 86.179.180.15
- War2act1
- 86.179.233.125
- 86.179.176.9
- War1act4
- Ifwaryouwantitswaryouget
- 86.145.71.249
Thanks.Blessings. ~ Josephina • Talk 2 Me 06:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like the accounts have already been blocked, and User:Ningauble added a /17 range block, which is what I was about to do. There may need to be a separate range blocked for the 86.145, which is outside the /17, but we'll need to see. GMGtalk 13:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
War Crimes
Hello, on the page "war crimes", I had removed the image and wrote in my first edit summary as to why I removed it "Winners can't commit war crimes? A shit quote not deserving of an image". A bit of a Harsh way for me to put it, but the quote does say that only losers in war commit war crimes. Which is false, they tend to be commited by many sides sadly. I didn't remove the quote because maybe it is notable, but can you remove the image with quote attached? --2001:8003:4085:8100:146:BDC4:D4AF:5CAE 03:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hello anon. I believe you miss the point the quote is trying to make. It is a fairly common pragmatic observation on 20th century world history that while all sides may commit acts that seem abundantly covered under the definition of war crimes, only the losing side seems to ever be the one prosecuted before international courts. It is an admittedly cynical formulation of that sentiment, but I think you misinterpret the meaning it is trying to convey. GMGtalk 11:36, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Antisemitic activism going on
Hi GreenMeansGo,
As you have noticed, I am requesting Harold Wallace Rosenthal for deletion. I have just looked up the creator of that page, Olivia_comet. Some of her contributions are concerning. Her creation of Robert Faurisson was a blatant act of support for an holocaust denier. Could you block this user? Yours, --GrandEscogriffe (talk) 18:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- It does seem many of their contributions range from right to far right...and wrestling? Whether it warrants an indefinite block should probably be a matter discussed by the broader community. You may wish yo post at WQ:AN. WQ does work a touch differently than Wikipedia. To some measure, quotes by terrible people are expected to be terrible, though these may be tempered by quotes included in the section about someone, by notable quotable third parties.GMGtalk 18:44, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Toy Story vandal...
Now it's a Thomas & Friends vandal. I request all Thomas & Friends articles be protected indefinitely so we never deal with this vandal again, and that drastic action be taken against it, as well.
- This edit proves all Thomas & Friends pages need indefinite protection. DawgDeputy (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- Protected /4 indefinitely. But it doesn't look like all these pages have been vandalized? But I agree that once persistent vandalism returns after something as long as a year protection, there isn't really much option other than indef semi. GMGtalk 20:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- They all do. These edits prove that the vandalism will never stop, and will carry over to other related articles. DawgDeputy (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I've protected all of the pages that they have returned to vandalize. Yes, they will probably move on to the other ones, but we can't protect pages preemptively until they have. GMGtalk 13:30, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
As I suspected, the Toy Story vandal will never stop unless serious action is taken against it. DawgDeputy (talk) 11:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Protected. GMGtalk 13:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- You should also add long-term protection to your talk page, as well, or this vandal will take its vandalism out on you. DawgDeputy (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- These juvenile edits prove that this vandal will never stop unless serious action is taken against it, whoever it may be. All those pages need to be protected indefinitely. We need its Wikipedia/Wikiquote privileges revoked permanently. DawgDeputy (talk) 23:28, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- DawgDeputy, I can discuss in more detail over email if you want to send me a message. GMGtalk 23:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
creation?
Can you tell me who created this when it was deleted last time and if there were any other major editors? Praxidicae (talk) 14:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: Looks like it was first created by Colgatepony234 24 June 2018, and the only edit that was deleted was the one creating the page, which consisted entirely of empty section headers and no quotes. GMGtalk 14:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
We've got another hypocritical vandal on our hands.
68.62.189.222 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
This IP has been making constant vandalism edits for the past few months and tries to take all the credit of undoing it for itself when it should not have been vandalizing in the first place. Plus, its unexplained vandalism at Over the Hedge (film) was blatant. This LTA IP must be blocked for a long period of time. DawgDeputy (talk) 22:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Wikiquote talk:Quote of the day
Hi, would you mind to join the discussion at Wikiquote talk:Quote of the day? Thanks. (Josephine W. (Talk) 12:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC))
- There doesn't seem to be a discussion taking place there. GMGtalk 12:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I had a typo. It should be Wikiquote talk:Quote of the day. (Josephine W. (Talk) 00:27, 1 March 2020 (UTC))
Vandalism afoot; immediate action requested against all parties
We have another persistent and unrepentant vandal on our hands, with sockpuppets to boot.
- Mario Loud 70 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
- 86.190.1.253 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
- 86.189.228.28 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
- Spongebob Loud 1999 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
I request serious action be taken against this unrepentant vandal, and that all pages it vandalized receive indefinite protection.
Meanwhile, another vandal is back in the form of this IP:
162.225.244.194 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) I request this vandal be blocked for no less than two years (since it learned nothing from the trouble it got into previously), and all pages it vandalized be protected for no less than that same period of time.
I tried reporting them to the noticeboard, with no response other than an LTA vandal (who should have been banned permanently in the first place) trying to remove the reports.
Furthermore, this vandal continues to add bias:
- 47.35.121.229 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
Drastic action requested against all of these vandals. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- We can't block mobile IPs for two years. There is no point. Besides that, I'm not sure I am going to override the opinion of @UDScott: here. These look like stylistic changes, and I don't deal with pop culture topics enough to have an opinion on what the best stylistic guidance is. They are a more knowledgeable person to assess that than I am. GMGtalk 14:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Excessive emphasis is nowhere near stylistic. It is full of bias, how the vandal considers it. DawgDeputy (talk) 16:00, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Plus, those IPs in question have never changed. Especially 162.225.244.194. Action has to be taken against them, and all pages they vandalized be protected for two years at a minimum (because just one year will not stop the vandals). DawgDeputy (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Mario Loud 70 was using sockpuppets to try and bypass potential blocking. That is just about as bad as its vandalism. DawgDeputy (talk) 16:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have blocked the obvious sock. I have blocked the apparent master for a month. Having said that, as was pointed out before, some of these edits appear constructive, and in some of your own edits (e.g., [2]) you are at least partially revering vandalism back into the article by knee jerk reverting everything you can find. GMGtalk 16:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you object over the technical limitations regarding dynamic IP addresses, but it doesn't change the way IPs work. GMGtalk 16:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, what else can be done to stop these vandals if Wikipedia and Wikiquote do not switch strictly to registered users? DawgDeputy (talk) 17:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and I suggest not only separate seasons of Thomas and Friends be protected, but all films, as well. DawgDeputy (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- As for Mario Loud 70, if it continues to vandalize and fail to communicate after its block, and/or if it creates an alternate account, I request its next block be no less than doubled. DawgDeputy (talk) 17:40, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Find someone who is good with edit filters. I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag. GMGtalk 17:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
You are now a Bureaucrat.
As you might imagine, this job will require reams and reams of paperwork, so you'd best get started. Cheers! BD2412 T 22:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations, glad to see your request closed as successful. ~riley (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Very, very fine!--Vilho-Veli (talk) 22:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh hey. Thanks. GMGtalk 10:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
The "Better Late Than Never" Barnstar | ||
Well done...at last :)——SN54129 14:31, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Congratulations, GMG!! --TheSandDoctor (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Importing smiley
Hi GMG! Could you please import the smiley template from meta? Thanks! --TheSandDoctor (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- @TheSandDoctor: Special:Import only gives me the option to import from Wikipedia, Commons, and Wikidata. Is that a bug or a feature? GMGtalk 16:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- A community discussion needs to take place and then a ticket on phab can be filed to add more options. I did that over on enwiki to add commons (ha). It isn't that bad. However, smiley exists on enwiki and commons, so either or :) --TheSandDoctor (talk) 16:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- And it seems I get a server error when I try to import from en.wiki. Full disclosure, using MediaWiki is the most technically complex thing I can do. GMGtalk 17:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- IT support has arrived. ;) What kind of error? A small number of templates would also need to brought over, perhaps thats the error you are getting? ~riley (talk) 20:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- @~riley: Well I did it again to recrate the error, but it looks like it worked, except Template:Smiley looks a bit wonky. GMGtalk 20:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- IT support has arrived. ;) What kind of error? A small number of templates would also need to brought over, perhaps thats the error you are getting? ~riley (talk) 20:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- And it seems I get a server error when I try to import from en.wiki. Full disclosure, using MediaWiki is the most technically complex thing I can do. GMGtalk 17:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- A community discussion needs to take place and then a ticket on phab can be filed to add more options. I did that over on enwiki to add commons (ha). It isn't that bad. However, smiley exists on enwiki and commons, so either or :) --TheSandDoctor (talk) 16:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Test
GMGtalk 20:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well it seems to works regardless. GMGtalk 20:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yup, you got it. Just some <noinclude> stuff to be cleaned up. ~riley (talk) 20:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yay!!! . --TheSandDoctor (talk) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
#top
If you want others to be able to recognize you as an administrator with the wiki's HighlightAdmins script, I'll either need to change your username to "GreenMeansGo#top" or you can remove #top from your signature.
For reference, the latter part of your signature is:
[[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]]
By default, the top of the page loads so not sure if you have a specific reason for that. The script is detecting "#top" as being part of your name, so you aren't being highlighted. Let me know which you'd prefer. Either are easy changes. ~riley (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- I believe that's so that my signature doesn't bold "talk" when commenting on my own talk page. GMGtalk 02:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, never thought of that as an issue. An alternative solution for that is to set the font-weight like so:
[[User talk:GreenMeansGo|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact;font-weight: 75;">talk</sup>]]
- If you don't want to change it, just let me know and I can update the script. Just wanted to throw an idea out there because I like to problem solve. ~riley (talk) 05:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, never thought of that as an issue. An alternative solution for that is to set the font-weight like so:
Problematic user...
Christian M. (2016) (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
This user constantly adds too many (at times, vandalized) quotes (including duplicates) to The Lion King (2019 film), repeatedly violating the film's quote limitations. I request action be taken against him immediately. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
IA
Hi GMG, can I please get IA per this addendum? Think it was missed and another full fledge request is excessive considering I technically have the rights. ~riley (talk) 07:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Done We have a spot for this at WQ:RFA, but it doesn't look like there is actually any policy requiring a formal request there, and as you said, you already submitted the request for review by the community and no one objected. GMGtalk 11:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! :) ~riley (talk) 05:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Delete page and block User
Akshay Makadiya Delete this Page. No potential to become a proper Wikiquote page. Axymakofficial Block this user doing spam on Wikiquote and other wiki. 157.37.206.84 18:27, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Reminder...
Protection against IP addresses on my talk page expires real soon. And considering this LTA IP epidemic, I cannot take any chances. I request my talk page be protected indefinitely. DawgDeputy (talk) 03:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Assistance requested
It concerns one Pratap Pandit (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
- It constantly harasses users such as Rupert loup, დამოკიდებულება, and myself, and refuses to admit defeat.
- Plus, it has a history of sockpuppetry on Wikipedia. We cannot take any chances that it may take its frustration out on Wikiquote.
- And in this edit, it claims დამოკიდებულება has a "weird name", and it demanded დამოკიდებულება add an English name in his signature, just because it claimed it would be "easier to communicate". I request action be taken against this user immediately.
- Plus, it falsely accuses me and Rupert loup of harassment and edit warring (which it started while we tried to stop), but it has provided no sufficient evidence.
- I already notified other admins, but I wonder if you could provide some assistance. DawgDeputy (talk) 02:14, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I am responding here as I was pinged from this page by DawgDeputy. You might want to see this report at Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard#Harassment and Edit warring by User:DawgDeputy.
- DawgDeputy has created same blockshopping threads on 8 different Administrator's talk page, even though a report is already posted on WQ:AN. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
- Weird name has already been explained in detail--Pratap Pandit (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
You have been reverted and copyright violations restored
Hi GMG, despite your interventions. This user reported here continues with his mindless edit warring removing sourced content and adding copyright violations. 3 reverts today. Please help. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Requesting indefinite protection...
...of my talk page. LTA IPs have been on my case ever since the protection was lifted. It is clear that these IPs will never stop. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)