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Merge ip edits to user accountEdit

I have been editing under the ip range of 2603:7080:da3c:7a33::/64, I would like this to be merged to the user account ilovemydoodle, Is this possible and if so, can it be done? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2603:7080:da3c:7a33:92c:4b4e:97c1:f71e (talk) 08:33, 5 May 2022

Finish a deletion nominationEdit

Hello, please could someone add Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Formatting to the log page for me? I can't do it as an IP because the page has been protected. Thank you! 00:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 14:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Thanks a bunch, much appreciated.
If you get a minute could you also add:
to the same page? 18:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done as well. ~ UDScott (talk) 20:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Could you please also list these four discussions?:
Thank you. 18:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Forgot to ping you. 18:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 23:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Could you please add these discussions too?
Thanks! 14:13, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 15:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Another batch, if that's OK:
Thanks! 11:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 12:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch, and thanks for adding some of the discussions I just started.
In this edit [1] you seem to have accidentally deleted Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Db-copyvio-notice while doing some cleanup, please could you re-add it to the list?
Also a few more nominations:
Thanks again! 14:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Forgot to ping again. 14:44, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done (and fixed the one I inadvertently deleted). ~ UDScott (talk) 18:42, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott A few more if you don't mind:
Thanks, 16:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 17:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Another batch:
Thanks, 12:01, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done Pppery (talk) 23:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott Yet another batch:
Thanks, 18:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 19:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott I have another batch of nominations, please could you add them to the list?
Thanks, 15:05, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 15:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

User: Eaglestorm againEdit

This user with a history of being disruptive (just see their User talk:Eaglestorm) and a permanent block from English WP was recently globally unblocked on a technicality and is back to their typical antics of ruthlessly “enforcing” the non-policy, unofficial guideline of WQ:LOQ via edit warring and being hostile and stubborn when asked to negotiate a solution. Dronebogus (talk) 03:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

here we go. did you even read the stewards report? I'm up to "typical antics" ... YOU'RE PLAIN OBSESSED with taking me down. What nonpolicy are you talking about? The one that's been effective with copyvio for the last 14 years? --Eaglestorm (talk) 03:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Yes, you still are being a net negative here. Dronebogus (talk) 03:35, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Do you not understand what proposed means here?! Dronebogus (talk) 03:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Do you have diffs of edit-warring? —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
  • @Dronebogus: It looks a bit like you saw ES editing, and went around revering their edits across articles, including apparently on a least some article you'd never edited before, meaning you weren't following your watchlist, you were following ES. I guess we can add repeatedly reverting ES on their own talk page.
So that's not all exactly a pristine position from which to argue about someone else's disruptiveness. GMGtalk 20:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
I know that, but ES is enforcing a proposed policy in a disruptive manner and is refusing to negotiate even when asked to. Dronebogus (talk) 22:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Well, one part inherent in LOQ certainly is policy: that excessively lengthy passages run afoul of copyright. But if you're gonna pick a hill to die on, I'm not sure the right one is ensuring that the article on GAT V includes riveting lines such as "Jimmy De Santa: Go away. Michael De Santa: What?" GMGtalk 16:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
And he's at it with the obsession edit as evidenced in Goldeneye - another article he's never ever edited on and would probably ignore if not for my work. Pathetic! You're a stalker who woke up on the wrong side of his bed and all of a sudden decided to wheelback one person's work in the name of skirting past copyright, plain and simple. And it's funny that one editor you complained to about me - who has a raft of copyright cleanups to his record - is even in on the act, adding more articles past LOQ. --Eaglestorm (talk) 02:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Salt a page title for use in documentationEdit


I'm planning on re-writing {{Redlink}} at some point in the next few days to make the implementation of this template a bit more sensible. As part of that I'd like to set it up so it creates links to a salted page title, rather than a random subpage of the template. Would someone be willing to creation protect a title for this purpose? Something like Wikiquote:redlink example would work well. I know from experience if you use an unprotected redlink in documentation someone is just going to create the page. 14:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Request to move some templatesEdit

Hello, I'm working through some template clean-up and have found some pages that I think should be moved. In addition can whoever moves them delete or supress any resulting redirects, as they will not be helpful.

Firstly, can someone please remove the admin level protection from Template:error and move Template:error2 to this title? There's no real reason for this template to have a number in its title except to get around the page salting (which seems to have been a bit of an overkill response for a single piece of IP vandalism).

Secondly can someone make the following moves, deleting any redirects:

Because there is no such thing as "articles for deletion" on this project. There are no current usages of these templates, so no real need to leave a redirect. I cleaned up the text of these templates a few days ago, but the title still needs to be changed.

Thanks, 18:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done (all four move requests). ~ UDScott (talk) 18:44, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Clean-up help neededEdit

Hello again, sorry for all the messages.

I need a bit of help cleaning up a bit of a mess I just found via Special:WantedCategories while cleaning up some template documentation.

It seems that about a month ago Ilovemydoodle tried to rename some categories, which they did by just moving the category page, without updating the actual category links in articles. The moved categories were therefore deleted as empty categories, and the redirects left over from the move (which is where all the actual pages are) were deleted as redirects to a deleted page.

For each of these pages either the category page either needs to be undeleted and moved back to the title where the articles are, or the category page needs to be undeleted and the articles moved to the new category.

List of Category pages and the articles supposed to be in them:

Thanks, 20:40, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 14:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. 10:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
  • @Ilovemydoodle: You can't just move categories like that. The cat page is just a dumbly compiled automatic list. The thing that actually puts the page in the category is on each article individually. GMGtalk 20:48, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion backlogEdit


Category:Candidates for speedy deletion is quite badly backlogged, there are pages in it that have been tagged for "speedy" deletion since the start of June. Would someone be able to take a look?

Thanks, 10:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 12:04, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott I've just spotted that Module:Message box/m was tagged for speedy deletion, but because templates don't work in module space it wasn't sorted into the category. 14:06, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Phab ticketEdit

Would someone with a phabricator account be willing to look at Phab:T313189? It's requesting changes to this site's configuration that I do not think have consensus on the basis that everyone who opposed the proposal should have their "votes" removed for being "invalid". 11:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Meh. Neglected phab tickets tend to just quietly die. The community there has a good head on their shoulders, and are not likely to put significant work into something that doesn't have strong consensus, and where there is a preference, but not a pressing need. GMGtalk 16:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Requesting an edit to a protected page.Edit

Hello, I've made a few edits to the version of Template:Unreferenced copied from wikipedia, the new code is at Template:Unreferenced/sandbox, please could someone copy the code from the sandbox page into the main template. The changes I have made:

  • I've swapped the text of the template back to the original version.
  • I've replaced the links to wikipedia policy and help pages with links to wikiquote ones.
  • I've returned the template to it's original categorisation system, rather than the wikipedia one, and have re-added the |categories=no functionality.
  • I've added a template doccumentation page (which doesn't display correctly in the sandbox, but should on the main template).

If anyone disagrees with those changes or wants something else changed, just let me know.

Thanks, 12:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done Pppery (talk) 16:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, unrelated, but could someone remove the last two transclusions of {{ show}} from The Sopranos and Barney & Friends. It was deleted at WQ:Votes for deletion/ show. I just removed the other 186 uses of this, but these two pages are protected. 13:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Done, cheers. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 13:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
@Rubbish computer Thank you! 14:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Block needed for (talk · contributions) is being disruptive in pages related to abortion. Some edit summaries may require revdel. FlyingAce (talk) 05:30, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Move a pageEdit

Hello, could someone please move John kiarie to either John Kiarie Waweru or John Kiarie to fix the capitalisation? Thanks, 16:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 16:28, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Edit requestEdit

Can someone remove the charinsert stuff from MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning? While unused by native editing tools, MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning can still be used by scripts, especially if they weren't specifically written for Wikimedia projects. Alexis Jazz (talk) 06:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz:  Y Done GMGtalk 15:58, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

History merge neededEdit


Please could someone history merge Khalil Gibran and Kahlil Gibran? The page was cut and paste moved a few years back, so the page history is now in a redirect. 22:49, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 12:31, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
@UDScott They don't seem to have been history merged? The page history prior to 2020 is here [2], and the page histoyr from the last two years is here [3]. 13:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


Please semi-protect Category:Philippines (long term abuse, see page history) and block the current IP (talkcontribscentralauthpage movesblock userblock log) --Johannnes89 (talk) 12:54, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done ~ UDScott (talk) 13:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Request to move a module.Edit

Hello, please could someone move Module:Section link/w to Module:Section link without leaving a redirect? I can't think of any logical reason why this module copied from another project needs to be at a weird subpage title. Thanks, 14:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

 Y Done (and all moves of modules don't leave redirects) Pppery (talk) 15:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Quotations removed without discussionEdit

Management is encouraged to consider that in April/May of this year, "HouseOfChange"  quickly removed hundreds of properly sourced quotations from notable people, which he did not approve of. It seems that HouseofChange has ignored the advice of BD2412 given on 26 April (text below) where he advised him to move the removed quotes to the discussion pages for the good of this project.

Here are some of the pages where the censored quotes have not yet been placed on the discussion pages, along with the approx. # of censored bytes:

Allegation; removed ~2847 bytes,

Brainwashing ~17,000+ bytes,

Cover-up - ~18,000 bytes,

Corruption - ~16,884 bytes,

Decadence-  ~25,000 bytes,

Deception - ~5,000 bytes,

Hegemony ~6,000,

International Monetary Fund - ~35,000 bytes,

Mafia state ~27,000+ bytes,

Misinformation - ~9,000 bytes,  

Nuclear weapons  - ~19,000+ bytes,

Ukraine -40,000 bytes,

Reality-  ~27,000 bbytes,  

(please note, this is not a complete list - these were noted during a brief search)

referencing: User_talk:HouseOfChange#Just_a_thought

BD2412 [to houseofchange]:... you are being quite aggressive in removing quotes that could arguably be included somewhere. I would suggest that rather than merely deleting them, you should move them to the respective talk pages of the pages you are working on (unless they are clearly by speakers with no plausible claim to notability). Some of them, readers might decide to keep, perhaps trimmed to a degree. Some of them might fit well into other pages. BD2412 T 07:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HouseOfChange" [reply]  That is a great idea! Thanks @BD2412: for the suggestion! It will preserve the material for other editors to give an opinion while making the article itself more readable/useful to readers... HouseOfChange (talk) 01:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

The actions of HouseOfChange  suggest that he may be not at all interested in helping educate the public with illuminating & thought provoking quotations from notable people, but working to intentionally dumb the people down by censoring what some would view as "inconvenient truths". Some would say that while he was boldly claiming to be battling POV pushing, he himself was POV pushing on a grand scale. We encourage WQ's honorable bureaucrats to encourage HouseofChange to follow the advice of BD2412 and that he (and one or two admins who egged him on) to be watched very carefully.  Obviously, there are many these days who tend to say one thing while doing something else, the air in the west seems to be  more full of lies than ever before. Thank you. 00:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)