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Template:Username

Could you please make Template:Username show the User’s name? I need it for several Templates. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 21:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

What do you have in mind? Does {{Ping}} not work? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

I mean the user viewing it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 23:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

@Kalki: Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 00:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@Koavf:

I have no idea what you need. What would the template do? How would you use it? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:42, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

A template that displays the username or IP address of the user viewing it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 06:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Do you have an example on another wiki that does this? I recalled that there was a magic word for this, but I can't seem to find it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

No, but this is still a very useful *potential* feature. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 15:45, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Request to add Editnotice

Could you add this Editnotice to my User and User Talk pages? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 23:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Y Done Are you sure you want that message? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:39, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you, you are the best admin. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 02:52, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, it isn't showing up, could you fix this?

Edit: I think you need to create the page here (and here for the Talk Page) for it to actually work. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 02:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

That doesn't seem to have done the trick. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Maybe try some test text instead? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 03:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I can. Seems like your hack should work, per mw:Manual:Interface/Edit notice, tho. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Maybe file a phab report? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 03:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I fixed it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:12, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Could you also protect the page so only I and Administrators can edit it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 03:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

No, there's no way to do that, other than by manually blocking that one page from every user who isn't an admin or you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		For actually doing this, I think most other Administrators take themselves to far too seriously to do something like this.

– Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:29, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks kindly. I'm here to serve. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Merge fork

Could you merge my fork of Joe Biden into the main page (revisions included)? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 03:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Probably, but you have to meet me half-way here and link to said fork. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

User:Ilovemydoodle/forks/Main/Joe Biden. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

"No revisions can be merged." —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Why? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Try now. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

"No revisions can be merged." —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Maybe try importing them instead? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

How? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay I figured it, this might sound strange, but it should work, merge Joe Biden into my fork, delete the original Joe Biden page and then move my fork to Joe Biden. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 04:49, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

"Source revisions overlap or come after destination revisions." You should just edit the main article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Y Done – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 05:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, do you have any work for me to do on Wikiquote? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha, Not an Administrator) (talk / e-mail) 05:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Wow, great question. I think the best thing that can happen here is if someone helps to bring more structure and semantics to Wikiquote. On a structural level, that is beyond any one person fixing, but anyone can add templates, metadata, etc. E.g. if you cite a source, include a citation template or use proper list semantics, such as not putting line breaks between bullets in a list. That and adding accessibility features like alt text are important issues to me. Thanks for asking and for all you do around here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I have been doing some of these things for while now, I will continue to do so also doing the other things you mentioned, but I was mainly looking for one or two shorter tasks to do now. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 06:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ilovemydoodle, in terms of work to do on Wikiquote:

• Category:Wikiquote no intro need intros
• Category:Video games' contents needs sorting into categories by year
• Category:Wikiquote cleanup has hundreds of articles needing cleanup
• Flooding could potentially be an article rather than redirect, not 100 percent sure though, depends on quotability.
• There are many entire countries with no article yet. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 16:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Also thank you again Koavf for the admin/maintenance work. I hope we get to see you back at enwiki eventually. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 19:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, RC! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

No worries. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 19:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Feature

Help, I really needed a feature added that lets a Template tell which skin your using. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 11:58, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Wow, I have no idea how to do that. You want to be a thrid party that knows which skin someone is using? I'm not sure that is an option. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:09, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I really need it, apparently the background of my talk page break certain features, but only on one skin, and after fixing now it only works on that skin and doesn't work on others, so I really need this fixed, maybe something using css files?

Edit: I figured it out, just add some css to the css file for each skin:

• Mediawiki:vector.css
• Mediawiki:vector-2022.css
• Mediawiki:minerva.css
• Mediawiki:monobook.css
• Mediawiki:timeless.css

– Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 18:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Koavf: Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 17:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm confused why you're pinging me. You just wrote, "I figured it out", so I thought there was no action for me here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:35, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

No, I meant that I figured out how YOU can fix it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 17:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

What do you want me to insert in the CSS files? I'm reluctant to do this as it will modify the site for all users, but I'm not entirely opposed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:03, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Just make it you have something that only appears when that skin is active.

Edit: You can do this by making something invisible in common.css and then setting it visible in the skin’s css file. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 19:05, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Feature request

Could you make a very useful JavaScript hack for me? Ping me when your ready and I'll give you more information. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 16:21, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm putting something on my calendar for next weekend--I'm busy this weekend. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Could you please do the other request above, though? (I really need it for something) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 17:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

All of them exist except one. I'll add a comment to it and then I suppose that resolves it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

No I mean in each file could you put:

span.show-[skin name here] {display: initial;}
span.hide-[skin name here] {display: none;}

– Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 21:00, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

No, I'm not sure what that will do. I'm trying to think of how that would appear in CSS and that seems like it would not display the user preferences. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, you just add this code to common.css for each skin:

span.show-[skin name here] {display: none;}
span.hide-[skin name here] {display: initial;}

– Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 21:03, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm reluctant to do that becuase of the concerns above. Do you have an example wiki where someone did this? I don't want to tinker with site-wide CSS without a really good reason. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, I can't think of any other wiki, but this IS quite important. On my user page I implemented a feature that perfectly well for me, but another user informed me that it didn't work in one skin, so I made one for that skin, but it only worked in that skin, so I need some code to differentiate between skins. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 21:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Could please give me more information about this? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 05:08, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

If I edit site-wide CSS, that will impact all users with a given skin. So I want to be very conservative about doing that and I don't want to even experiment, lest I mess up someone's view of the site. If you have examples of other wikis doing this or can justify why you need it done with some clarity, then maybe I can help you. Better yet woudl be community consensus. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Basically, I want a feature where I can create a span with the class "[Skin Name Here]-show" and it will only show it for users viewing in that skin, there would also be a "[Skin Name Here]-hide" which would do the reverse. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 19:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

And I need to have a greater justification than just your personal preference before I tinker with site-wide CSS. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:44, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

A lot of Templates need different code for each skin to display properly. Also, I don't see any harm in adding this. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 19:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Response time

Is there anyway to have a discussion in real-time? I would like to have several long discussions about feature requests, but that's not really doable if it takes days between each comment. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:23, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I have really only used Gchat (or whatever it's called now) for IMing, but sure. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

What is Gchat? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Google's IMing, associated with Gmail. Again, it's been called a million things. Hangouts now? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Any WMF way of live chat? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I think Matrix: m:matrix. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I keep hearing about "libera chat", is it what I want? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Correct. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

So, could you explain what it is and how to do what I am requesting with it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 05:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I've never used it. I just know that it's the replacement for IRC (which I very rarely used). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

What’s IRC again? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 05:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Internet Relay Chat, which was more-or-less popular as a group chat option for decades and the best server for it, Freenode was bought by a jerk, so everyone jumped ship to Libera. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

How does libera work? Would it be good for what I want? And, do you have an account there? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 06:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

It's a good chat service, as I understand it and would meet your needs. I've never used it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Can you create an account? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 06:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, if that's the method you want to use. I'm here to help. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

What is the name of your account? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 07:05, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@koavf:matrix.org —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Koavf: I mean on libera. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 12:38, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Gotcha. I haven't made one yet. I can when I'm free-er. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

When will that be? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 12:53, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I have a calendar reminder for the following weekend (i.e. not in a few days but a week and a half). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I am wondering if we can do it today instead? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 13:07, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I cannot. I have a busy-ish day and a very busy day tomorrow. To the extent that I can screw around on the Internet, it has to be pretty limited. I'm happy to meet at a time that's mutually convenient, of course. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────┘
Thank you! When your ready I have a lot to discuss. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 13:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, when your ready, could you leave a message saying so on my Talk Page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Can do. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Can you just send me a calendar invite if you need to chat? I'm afraid that it's hard for me to make the time. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:03, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I am not sure how to do that, do you mean like mentally, or on Wikiquote? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 13:54, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to my email address: justinkoavf[littleanarchysymbol][google's email service][period]com. If you can't do that or don't want to share your email address with me, then please let me know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I have had my email address removed a long time ago due to abuse, so I can't use my email. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

You can't email me directly? That's fine. When would you like to chat? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

When ever you’re ready to implement a lot of stuff. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:38, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, which Template de-indents a discussion? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

{{outdent}} —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:04, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any set date that you would be willing to help implement (or at-least begin the implementation of) a lot of features? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm busy with work and personal things in July, so I've had a hard time setting a time. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:34, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, why did you obfuscate your email address? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:24, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

What is "[littleanarchysymbol]"? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:12, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Obfuscated for bots. [littleanarchysymbol] = "@". —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:34, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

I’m confused, what do you mean obfuscated for bots? Also, if it's obfuscated how I am meant to read it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:49, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

So that a bot couldn't harvest it and spam me. You may be able to read it because you can decode things that a bot can't. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 03:03, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Bug fix

In Special:ListUsers "Administrator" is capitalized, on all other wikis (including Wikipedia) it is lower case. Could you please fix this? You could do this by either making it lower case, or by capitalizing all User Rights. (the second option is the one I prefer) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

But all of them are upper case now, so at least that's consistent. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh wait, I see. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I think fixing it would require recreating MediaWiki:Administrators and making it lower-case, but I'm not sure of all the places where it would be changed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:34, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't see the problem with doing that. Also, if you prefer it capitalized, you could just capitalize all User Groups. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:36, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Because it may be transcluded other places where it shouldn't be capitalized. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, it's just fine on en.wp. Also, which option do you prefer? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 04:39, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I have no strong feelings on this and while I am actually usually very in favor of consistency and proper usage, this one doesn't bother me much. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

A question for you

If you ever get unblocked from enwiki, will you still regularly contribute here? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 15:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

For sure. I plan on it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:13, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Issue with your archive page

A lot of users used {{PAGENAME}} instead koavf on your Talk Page, so when you archived the page it now says "Hi koavf/archive001" instead of just "Hi koavf." Could you fix this? (I can't since you protected the page) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:05, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Sure, thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:34, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Rollback vote

Could you vote here? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 05:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Protection request

Could you protect this page so only admins can edit? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 09:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

This page. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Still isn’t done. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Wait why is the page gone? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

It's back. The easiest way to delete dozens of revisions is to delete the entire page and then un-delete the revisions that you want. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:50, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Ohhhhhhhh. I was really confused why you were deleting the whole page. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:55, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Koavf, could you do a full cleansing of the page? What I mean is removing all vandal revisions to the very beginning (even those already revdeled), and then also removing the reverts of those revisions as well. Could you do this? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

That should be most of them. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Could you also remove the undos of vandalism? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:23, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Nothing even displays: https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ilovemydoodle/Archives/Archive_1&diff=next&oldid=3139360 Is this really necessary? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

I would like to do it, to reduce clutter and potential for confusion, so, yes. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:32, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Koavf! – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:51, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request

Could you change Template:Test4 to redirect to Template:Uw-vandalism4 to match Wikipedia? Also, to make the progression to 4im make more sense. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Abuse Filter

@Antandrus: Could you also give your comment on this?

Could you add the following terms to the Abuse Filter:

(removed) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:46, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I've edited the abuse filter before, but I'm not a whiz at it. Note that blocking edits outright based on some of these filters would certainly disrupt standard editing. I feel like this is probably not the best way to stop vandalism and would want to get more consensus from the community. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

How about you block the ones that are obviously vandalism entirely. And the potentially good-faith ones could be allowed only for autoconfirmed. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 02:17, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I'd still want a broader consensus. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:22, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, could you protect this page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 02:24, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Imagine what GRP would do if when he next logs in Wikiquote using one of his 50 trillion VPNs, and all of his favorite buzzwords get blocked by the Abuse Filter. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 05:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Again, please post to the Village Pump to get consensus. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:15, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Quick fix needed

Could you please create this page? It's needed for a lot of templates on Wikipedia, so when I import them, they don't work. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:04, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Question: how do you import revisions? I regularly import templates from Wikipedia, so it would be nice to be able to import the revisions too. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Special:Import, if you are an admin. You are not importing, you're just copying and pasting, which is fine as long as you give attribution in the edit summary or the talk page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Is there anyway to import without being an admin? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

No, just ask an admin to do it. Again, it's fine to completely reproduce any of the content from any WMF project anywhere, it just requires attribution. The problem with copy/paste "importing" is that it may not import all dependencies. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, I know how to import dependencies, I would just like the ability to import revisions too, as I import hundreds of templates regularly. Also, when copying I often forget to attribute. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

If you forget, in practice, it's not the biggest deal in the world, but you really should post a note on the talk page saying where it came from and how someone could find attribution at the original source. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, according to this, there is a group for import, just like rollback. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:59, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Heads up that it's w:en:Help:Import or w:en:WP:IMPORT. In theory, we can activate importer and transwiki importers here, but we don't have any and I personally can't do it, as it requires a bureaucrat. Generally, import rights outside of being an admin is rare and reserved for weird circumstances (e.g. a user on en.wp who has access to very old server logs and imports edits from 2001 occasionally). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:04, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Can I make a request? And, if so, where? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

You can request import at the admin's noticeboard. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:40, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

Could please revdel these two revisions? (they are both by the same vandal)

• 1
• 2

– Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 03:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Second one too? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 03:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I think you forgot the second one. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 05:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Check again. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:06, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Still there – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Gotcha. I deleted the edit summary. Thanks: hate speech has no place here except in the context of historically meaningful and educational quotations.o —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Could you also give feedback to my question on the village pump? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Protection request

Could you protect this page so only admins can edit? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 05:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done I already did that. Now I've done it twice. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:07, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Question about the abuse filter

Can importing revisions ever trigger the abuse filter? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 11:19, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Probably? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Which user right (not group) allows you to bypass the abuse filter? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 15:01, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't know anything more than this: mw:Extension:AbuseFilter#User_rights. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Who would know more about this? Should I ping Aklapper? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Possibly. I think a lot of folks on en.wp would know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I already asked a few hours ago on the help desk, still no response. I also asked on meta, also no response. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I got two answers, here: meta, wikipedia. So the answer (thankfully) appears to be no. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Importer proposal

Could you give me feedback on my importer proposal? (not for/against, just about improving the proposal) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:54, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Emergency

QOTD missing! Y Done by Kalki. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Question about my import proposal

Some of the permissions I know for sure are needed, for others I am pretty sure, and a few are just guesses. So, do you know who specifically I could ask about this? This would make sure that ones that are not needed can be removed, and that needed ones that are not listed can be added. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 02:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't have a recommendation on this, no. It's your proposal: you can make it however you want. You just need to be clear and explain your reasoning. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:16, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

QOTD

QOTD is missing! Y Done by Kalki. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Question about my requests to you that could be asked more generally on VP or AN

Are you okay with this, or does it bother you? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 05:32, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

If the worst thing that happens to me here is that someone is too enthusiastic, that's a good problem to have. I like your edits and interest in helping out. I just want to make sure that any kind of radical changes get larger community support. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

These two edits. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 11:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

Three edit summaries. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 12:16, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

Three revisions. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Ilovemydoodle, Y Done but only one revision. The others aren't eligible for revdel. --Ferien (talk) 20:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Potential issue with import proposal

If the page has already been imported manually and changed since, but the page on the wiki you are importing from has also been changed, then the merge will fail. So is there any kind of right that I could that would let you remove a revision? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:04, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Just being an admin. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Does the database keep track of if an edit is imported? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:09, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not certain. From what I've seen, it's seamless. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I mean in the backend. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I would think so. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Online

Are you online right now? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:32, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a little availability, but I'm getting sleepy actually--I've been sick lately. :/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Online

Are you still online? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

This. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 11:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

I wanted to nominate you for bureaucrat, but I could not think of enough reasons for a full nomination. Could you nominate yourself? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 13:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

N Not Done I'm pretty busy now, so picking up extra responsibility seems like a bad idea. :/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Later? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Maybe! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

This. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 11:32, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hounding

I have noticed that a particular new editor here seems to be here only in discussion pages, which is fine in my opinion, but they appear to particularly targeting me (voting against various proposals, listing pages for deletion, etc.), and haven't been doing any mainspsce editing or editing in other discussions, does this count as hounding? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 13:37, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@AC9016: Do you agree? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 15:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

It could be. I haven't seen this behavior yet. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Here – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 15:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I have not observed this behavior either. My time on Wikiquote is overwhelmingly spent on creating and editing pages. --AC9016 (talk) 15:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I see you posted to his talk, so let's see where that goes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:58, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Strikethrough templates

Templates what is your opinion on {{Ds}}, {{Ts}}, and {{Qs}}? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

It's not obvious to me why these exist. If you need to semantically mark up that something is deleted or struck, then we have those options, so why do we need to visually have a template that strikes something four times? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:48, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Availability

When do you think you could help with the js feature requests previously mentioned? Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Which one again? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Not specifically one, several small ones over IRC. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, not anytime soon. Sorry. :/

I have work, school, and travel. I am happy to do continued maintenance on projects where I am an admin (e.g. here), but doing anything ambitious is on an indefinite hold. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Not that big, only small to medium additions. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

AN Archives

Hello. I noticed that you sysop-protected Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive/037 but this is blocking my bot from archiving the WQ:AN as requested. Would you prefer if I start archiving in Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive/038 instead? If this is due to vandalism, an AbuseFilter could be created to avoid subpages of the AN to be editted by anyone but sysops and bots. Regards, --MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Maybe your bot can just be an admin? I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't do it unilaterally, but you're a trusted user, so I don't see that as being a problem. I'll unprotect for now. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate your words, but I do not think my bot should have +sysop as it is very dangerous. Bots can, however, edit pages protected up to the autoconfirmed level so if vandalism on that page is an issue you may reprotect it to the "edit: autoconfirmed" level and my bot won't have troubles with bypassing that restriction. Regards, --MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:45, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello

I would like to inform you that I have returned here after three weeks.

I mainly left due to the large-scale deletion of my templates and modules, most of which was unjustified. I would like to have these undeleted so the issues with templates can be properly addressed, rather than just deleting them. I would like to start by having these templates undeleted:

• Template:T
• Template:Blockedreason
• Template:Removed (and Template:Vote removed)

Do you think you help with this? And, if so, could you add some-sort-of messaging saying that it is currently being worked-on and should not be immediately re-VfD'd? Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Welcome. I would recommend starting with the admins who deleted them and see if they think for some reason there was an error or something was deleted out of process. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:50, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

I am not saying that is out of error, I just think that I can easily fix the issues that were given as the reason for deletion. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:52, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, you would need to undelete the associated sub-pages. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:53, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Sure, well I would still start with the deleting admin. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Y Done added a link to this discussion. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Wait... the deleting admin only deleted it because of a VfD, so if I am able to address the problems raised in the VfD, couldn't it just be undelete without needless bureaucracy? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

• All I did was close the discussions. In nearly every one, the consensus to delete was unanimous. I would recommend you take some time to consider working on tasks that do not require the creation of large amounts of templates and subpages, give that this wasn't a one-off issue, but one where there were scores of pages that needed to be deleted. GMG^talk 20:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

  @GreenMeansGo: My reason for creating these was not just randomly make bad templates, instead I was trying to implement a much larger idea for Wikiquote, but since it would be such a large change and would require large changes to backend things like php and js, I instead only implemented a very small amount of it. But, since I only implemented small amounts of what actually wanted to do without context, I instead made something that doesn't have any propose or value. So, instead, I would like to make a local 'test wiki' where I can work on larger things like this that can later be implemented properly on the main wiki.

  Do you think you could help by sending an xml file of the deleted pages? Thanks, – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

  I nominated the templates for deletion (and there was unanimous consensus to delete them) because they were fundamentally crap templates. The fact the implementation was terrible was only a small part of the problem, the big issue is that the ideas behind them were awful. No amount of JavaScript or PHP would have turned those pages into useful templates.

  You have tried to reinvent processes for no good reason (often in really stupid ways involving obnoxious amounts of pings), you have made pointless duplicate templates that recreate functionality that already exists, and have created templates that should not be used under any situation because they violate fundamental project policies and fly in the face of wiki culture.

  Of those three templates the first one duplicates a template we already have, the second was another duplicate template but with some really really terrible modifications, and the third was a horrendously bad idea for a template that should never ever be used under any situation.

  I would oppose restoring these as the community has made it clear they don't want them. Banning people from nominating them for deletion after a unanimous consensus to delete is also a grossly inappropriate suggestion. The only admin action that I could see being remotely appropriate here is blocking you from template and module space. You clearly do not have the competence to edit there productively and have made a ridiculous amount of mess treating this project as your personal sandbox that is going to take months and months to clean up. I haven't edited in a week due to real life work, but there is still a vast amount of localisation, clean-up and deletion nominations to be done. Fundamentally as a newbie who has only been here for a couple of months you should not be attempting to "implement a much larger idea for Wikiquote" and completely remake the project according to how you think it should be - that isn't how consensus or wiki communities work. 192.76.8.85 01:02, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

  Forgive me, but, is it not "cleaned up" already? All of templates and modules appear to of been deleted. Also, I was not requesting they all be restored. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:49, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

  No, it's nowhere near finished. Special:WantedCategories is still full of clean-up categories that need renaming, merging, and actually creating. There are still a ton of modules and templates that you've copied from other projects without bothering to set them up properly, e.g. Module:Pagetype/config, which still has a load of wikipedia only configurations in it. There are a bunch of unused templates that don't actually make a lot of sense on this project, Template:Disputed inline doesn't make a great deal of sense when applied to quotations. There are a bunch of templates that I cannot forsee anyone ever using, e.g. Template:Background color which is used to applying formatting that should never actually be used in pages, Like this. And that's before we even get into looking at all the templates that you overwrote with wikipedia specific ones or messed around with for no good reason. 192.76.8.85 08:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

  Please don’t, I have stopped the template creation and will only return to it when I know what I'm doing. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 04:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Don't get discouraged brother or sister. Figure it out. Lord knows I'm lucky to understand how email works some of the time. But do it on a test wiki. GMG^talk 02:44, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

This. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 09:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, while it is an inappropriate comment, I don't think it is eligible for RevDel. It is just a "normal" personal attack. --Ferien (talk) 11:24, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm a fan of w:en:WP:DENY and happy to revdel things that don't even try to add to this site. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

This should probably be removed as well. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 16:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't say that spending time going back to a month old edit no-one else will be looking at is a way of denying recognition to vandals. --Ferien (talk) 22:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Okay, if you want to leave this kind of trash in the edit history, you can. As I come across abusive edits like this, I remove them. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

It's not great to be in the edit history, but we are hiding these kinds of edits from public view. Would you say that the edit revision, as well as the edit summary, is bad enough that it should be hidden from other editors? Particularly with this edit - what is the worst that would happen if it was just left alone? --Ferien (talk) 22:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes and probably nothing other than giving a troll what he wants. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Shouldn’t all personal attacks be revdeled? I thought "special" personal attacks are meant to be oversighted. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 16:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: No absolutely not. There is no RevDel policy here, and we should definitely get one some point soon, but RevDel is generally only used for grossly inappropriate content. Both of these revisions certainly wouldn't be eligible for revision deletion at all on any other wiki I'm active on, especially not on English Wikipedia. And oversight can only be used for "a blatant attack is one obviously intended to denigrate, threaten, libel, insult, or harass someone." --Ferien (talk) 22:00, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I think revdel should be used on any edit harmful bad-faith edit. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

These. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:02, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, is this possible? (without dev access) – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 08:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

This too! Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 08:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Block request

Could you softblock Ilovemycock? (I created it to prevent abuse) Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 10:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Y Done by Ferien. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 10:24, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Abuse filter

Could you import this filter onto this wiki? Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Y Done This is pretty extensive as a filter. I'll have to keep my eyes on it and what kind of hits it gets. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Did I do a good job? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:06, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I think, but we'll find out by trying it. Such is life, I suppose. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:12, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Is there any way to make the filter block a user if they trigger it too much? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:13, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

As I recall, yes, but I'm not an abuse filter whiz. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:20, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Who would know how to do that? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:21, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't even know where to start. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Cabayi: Do you know? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, it is not the best idea to ping users who are not active on this wiki to something they have not been involved in. --Ferien (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: I was trying to find a knowledgeable user. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:02, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: then please head to AN or the Village pump. I have a little bit of experience with abuse filters and how to add to them, although I don't promise to be an abuse filter genius. --Ferien (talk) 21:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but you should probably remove the 'test' in the name of the filter. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 18:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Could you give me the abuse helper right so I can check on the filter? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:22, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I think this would need discussion and consensus first. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:24, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

It doesn’t allow you to edit it, just view it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Still needs consensus and doesn't exist here.--Ferien (talk) 20:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Don't want to talk about the contents of the abuse filter too much onwiki but I imagine this could be merged into abuse filter 33. It has the same purpose. --Ferien (talk) 20:45, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Mine includes both GRP and Wikinger, while filter 33 only includes GRP. Maybe 33 could be merged into mine? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, they are essentially the same vandal. In fact, 34 doesn't really apply to Wikinger at all. It doesn't really matter which one it's merged into but an extensive amount of time has been spent on filter 33 to make it suitable for enwikiquote and their behaviour here. I was just checking and pretty much everything included in filter 34 is in 33 and more. But as I said I don't want to spend much time talking about the filter itself. --Ferien (talk) 20:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Could you copy it to test2wiki so I could view it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Koavf, Could you do this? (I would like to compare it to my version) Thanks! – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:24, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: I am not sure why you are so concerned about this. Filter 33 is working very well and has significantly decreased the amount of disruption this vandal can cause, there is no need for additional filters or for the filter to be shown to you. It is hidden for a reason. --Ferien (talk) 10:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

I would like it copied so I can compare it to my filter. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: But why do you need to compare it to filter 33 when I already have done so? --Ferien (talk) 20:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Because I would like to see it for myself. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:56, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: You would like to, but you currently have no right to and no good reason to. Even if there was a good reason to, I do not trust you to keep the abuse filter private, as you literally asked for a whole list of things to be added to the private abuse filter onwiki above. Please stop worrying about abuse filters. These ones in particular are private for a reason, and are not supposed to be discussed on-wiki, particularly in this much detail. --Ferien (talk) 17:41, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Where exactly are we meant to discuss these kinds of things? Is there a private wiki? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

You can discuss using email but abuse filters aren't like usual content pages. Usually I find if there is a constant vandal around, someone will end up suggesting an abuse filter. An abuse filter ends up being created with things added and removed depending on what does/doesn't work, with reasons added in the notes. Not much discussion is needed beyond that really. --Ferien (talk) 19:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Do you think there should be a wiki for trusted users to talk about potentially sensitive topics? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

To chime in, there is a CheckUser wiki that serves a similar function, but only for those with that permission on at least one wiki. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I have of heard of this, but it is not what I *exactly* mean (it is similar, though). What I am referring to, unlike CU wiki, would be enabled to users without signing the confidentiality agreement. It would be for things that shouldn't be fully open, but are not confidential. This wiki would be available to:

• Administrators
• Global stewards
• WMF staff
• Users in the 'trusted' group (which would also grant access to viewing deleted pages, revisions, and hidden abuses filters, and the ability to edit protected pages [excluding pages automatically protected by MediaWiki {e.g. the Main page, the Mediawiki namespace, etc.}])

– Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: I have removed the abuse information above, you may revdel it if you feel the need to. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 19:14, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I updated it, could you re-copy it? Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

N Not Done. Importing doesn't work. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:04, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Delete it and then re-import it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 01:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I can try. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:07, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

{{Done}}? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 03:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Revdel request

This Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 06:27, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

N Not Done Why would this be deleted? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Protection request

Could you protect User talk:Ilovemydoodle/Archives/Archive 2? (sysop-only, to prevent vandalism) Thanks! – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:45, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Abuse filter

A while ago an anon complained about the overuse of BIG TEXT and TOO MANY EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I totally agree. For a while some users have been (successfully) vandalizing pages by adding dozens or even hundreds of exclamation points and/or big text. I have made an abuse filter to stop this and I was wondering if you could import it here. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not inclined to now, no. E.g. see https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/3690. While this is deprecated HTML and should not be used in any web page, there is a toll with having many abuse filters and having one for something like this (which can also be easily spotted as a lint error) doesn't justify its existence here. Agreed that it's bad, but disagreed that the resources required for an abuse filter are necessary. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I see this extremely often, so often that when I was look for a page as an example, the first page I click has both overuse of exclamation points and big text. Also, the <big> restriction isn't because it is deprecated (it is still used in many high-use templates, even on enwiki), but because it is often used for abuse (intentional or unintentional). Both of these restrictions only apply to non-autoconfirmed editors in the mainspace, so as to limit false positives. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 08:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Would you accept the filter if it only triggered with two or more <big> tags in the mainspace? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 08:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

No, I'd still want consensus on this. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@UDScott, GreenMeansGo: Thoughts? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

While I agree that it is annoying and most often used for vandalizing, I also agree with Justin that we can fight this in the usual ways rather than by using an abuse filter. I'm generally in favor of not using hard restrictions unless there is no other way. I do find this problem at times (especially on TV show pages), but IMHO I don't think it is so bad that we can't handle this issue without going to the extreme of putting in an abuse filter. ~ UDScott (talk) 20:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@UDScott: Would support having a bot that automatically removes this kind of vandalism? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@UDScott: What legitimate actions would this impede? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 21:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

My talk page

At some point it got unprotected when it shouldn't have been, could you reprotect it? Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:44, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

The initial protection expired. I'm reluctant to protect it indefinitely, as in general, users should be able to reach out one-on-one to collaborate. I've protected it for three more months and if you experience issues on-wiki that you think may require more protection, please let me know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:01, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Also, I'll could try to create a separate page or other sytem for IP users. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:24, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Also, you could probably protect my user page indefinitely, since user pages don't usually need to be edited by others. Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm fine with indefinite protection of a user page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

That would be totally legit, if you wanted to create User talk:Ilovemydoodle/IPs and direct IP editors there or something. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Y Done Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 00:58, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Update required

Please update the name of the administrator in this gadget. Saroj Uprety (talk) 18:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

I see you removed Miszatomic and added Mdd. Mdd was already on the list and Miszatomic is still an admin, so this should be corrected. And the gadget is not working for Illegitimate Barrister. Please look one more time. Thanks. Saroj Uprety (talk) 03:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Y Done? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Still not working for Illegitimate Barrister. Saroj Uprety (talk) 03:36, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Y Done ??? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the trouble but still not working. Saroj Uprety (talk) 03:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

How do I fix it? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:19, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't know either. The script might not work for a user with a space in their name. Saroj Uprety (talk) 05:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Seems like it doesn't. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:35, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

action needed

Please remove the pages created by User:172.58.158.139. And I think User talk:MdsShakil was deleted by mistake. Please take a look. Saroj Uprety (talk) 05:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I've mass deleted those IP creations and I'm going thru them now and I undeleted res of the talk page before vandalism. Good eye. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Auto archive

Hi, Koavf.
Do we need an auto-archive on VP? It still took time for manually archive, maybe this could be down with a bot or something else? Lemonaka (talk) 08:58, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Auto-archive is a good idea, but, again, I'm ignorant on how to make the simple bots that can do this. It's helpful, but not necessary. So if someone has the will and know-how, that's great. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

This will take time, let me have a try if possible. Lemonaka (talk) 09:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Go with God, my friend. I know that it's actually fairly trivial to do if you understand Python and users have whipped up bots to do this on a number of projects where it was requested. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

For archiving discussion on VP, we need to import m:Template:Autoarchive resolved section and m:template:section resolved, could you help me import these templates and templates related to it since I don't have the permission for this action? Import feature will be found at Special:Import Lemonaka (talk) 08:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I am very hesitant to import, as it frequently ends up with broken links, hours of importing dependent modules and templates, and ends up with the local templates drifting apart from the original. I'd really prefer to not use this solution. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Will, I will try to seek another solution. Lemonaka (talk) 11:11, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Problem with Special:AbuseFilter/22

Special:AbuseFilter/22, which was last modified by you, is disallowing me from editing my own userpage. Please consider excluding the User namespace from the filter since the purpose of it seems to be to disallow mainspace titles in non-English alphabets. Additionally would appreciate if you can delete my userpage, which was what I was trying to tag for. Thanks. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 05:27, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Anna

Sorry to disturb you. I am examining [1]. I would be grateful if you could explain your reasoning for the deletion and the policy/criteria under which you chose to delete it. Thankyou. -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 23:29, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Not a disturbance at all. I was deleting non-quotation entries made by an IP. If you think there's value in having this disambiguation page, then go for it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:53, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't User:2600:4040:a803:e00:d033:ab2:194:dd77 been informed of this deletion before it happened? Just wondering.

Thanks in advance and happy holidays. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Maybe but a lot of IPs are driveby editors. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:04, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

... but many IPs are not driveway editors. Actually I would hazard a guess that at least 20% of existing ENWQ compendiums of quotes (also referred to as articles) were started by an anonymous contributor. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

[dead link]

Hi Koavf, are you the resident template expert on ENWQ? If so I have a question/if not who is the expert:

I tried to add {{dead link}} to a page, but when I click on the link created it leads me to w:Wikipedia:Link rot. Just wondering what is this going to accomplish?

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

It explains what link rot is and why it's bad. Is that not helpful?t —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

template horizontal TOC

Hi again,

I am looking for a template, again. This one is similar to {{TOCalpha}}, but used on pages where a chronolical order is required. Is template horizontal TOC the correct one? I found it on enwp.

Hope you're not getting tire of me visiting here? Ottawahitech (talk) 21:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Never tired, just not sure how to help. Are you saying that you want a template imported from en.wp? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:50, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Site Notice

Hello Koavf. Can you please remove the banner from the Sitenotice please ? Thanks Anthere (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC) https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&action=edit

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Susan Wojcicki

A page that you have been involved in editing, Susan Wojcicki, has been listed for deletion. All contributions are appreciated, but it may not satisfy Wikiquote's criteria for inclusion, for the reasons given in the nomination for deletion (see also what Wikiquote is and is not). If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Susan Wojcicki. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Thank you. DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 00:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk page

Could you please indefinitely protect my talk page and also Magitroopa's? We're both being harassed by an LTA with little-to-no end. Blaze Wolf (talk) 14:22, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:03, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! It's times like these that I wish I had all of my fancy tools that I have on enWiki. Blaze Wolf (talk) 15:06, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Your block of 73.37.237.49

Hi, Koavf. Are you sure you want to indefblock 73.37.237.49 (talk · contributions)? What happened to this IP, normally we don't block them as indef... Lemonaka (talk) 18:33, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Agreed, that is probably not best practice. I have changed the block. Merci, lemon. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Lemonaka (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

The persistent edits by those IP addresses.

I previously reported an IP address for its constant vandalism, especially in regards to Babar: King of the Elephants. While you banned this user only for a week out of hope that the IP is doing good-faith edits, I would like to point out that the edits have been a persistent problem. The addition of voice actors that were not involved in various projects, especially on the linked Babar article, have been happening since January. Furthermore, this IP appears to be sockpuppeting; I've compared a similar edit made on Rugrats in Paris: The Movie dated to December 2021 which was done by a different IP that is similar to the vandalism done by the Babar spammer; featuring an almost similar selection of random animal species that can be compared with a number of similar edits; the constant additions of unrelated voice talent has been a problem that persists between both IPs. It's also worth noting that the persistence in adding all this random unrelated voice talent and "animal-like" nonsense has been constant; not to mention the same articles (i.e., the linked Babar article, Beauty and the Beast) have been targeted by both of them, not to mention this whole unrelated voice talent problem has been going on for even longer, as evidenced by one of the spammer's talk pages. Could both these IPs be blocked indefinetly for persistently spamming the same articles with, by and large, the same types of spam? 03isrflo62410 (talk) 22:45, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Blocking IP addresses indefinitely is very rarely, if ever done. If you would like, I would be willing to ban them for a year if you link to the contribs of the IP addresses in question. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:24, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

One of them is already banned for a year due to persistent vandalism, but here's the other one. 03isrflo62410 (talk) 14:54, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of pages without notification

Hi Koavf, I am just wondering why several of the pages I have started on enwq have been deleted without notification on my usertalk page.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Not sure why. Can you give me an e.g.? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:01, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Are you aware that on my UP at #2, which is titled My contributions to English Wikiquote I have a link to a wikimedia analysis of all the contributions I have made to enwq, and also a link to all the pages that I started here.

Just curious, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I was not. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

HelloRocko

Hello, Koavf, I saw you blocked Dr. Rocko Rama (talk · contributions) and FilburtTron2025 (talk · contributions), however, I suspect HelloRocko (talk · contributions) is the same person, can you look into that? -‎Lemonaka‎ 02:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. :/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Ban evasion

Introducing myself, I mostly edit Wikipedia.

The ban evader[2][3] that you had blocked is still evading his ban with this new account.

Can you block him? Thanks Abhishek0831996 (talk) 03:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

To be clear, User:ᘙ makes it explicitly clear that he is also User:დამოკიდებულება, who also makes it explicitly clear that he is User:ΞΔΞ. His explanation is that he cannot log in to those old accounts, which could be true. Either way, the other two accounts do not edit anymore. Has the ᘙ account actually made any edits that are problematic? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

On Jawaharlal Nehru he keeps using the quotes that were not exactly said by the persons in question but were attributed to them much after their deaths by ideologically motivated individuals. For sure this user must be doing that elsewhere too but I haven't checked his edits. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 06:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@ᘙ: Is this true? Are your quotations not actually quotations from the person in question? If so, you know that you need to either 1.) not include them at all or 2.) include them and explicitly mark them as misattributed if they are common misattributions. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@Abhishek0831996 , you have reverted without addressing the concerns at the talkpage that I made. I kindly request that you refrain from adopting a battleground mentality during our discussions. Instead, let us engage in a respectful and constructive dialogue to address the issues at hand. By focusing on understanding each other’s perspectives and finding common ground, we can foster a more productive conversation.

@Justin, no it is not true. The first 2 of 4 removed quotes can be seen here [4] on page 23. I have continued the discussion on the talkpage. --ᘙ (talk) 13:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Please check your e-mail

I look forward to hearing from you. MathXplore (talk) 12:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I have sent another e-mail. MathXplore (talk) 00:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Please check recent WQ:AN requests

Hello, I look forward to hearing from you. MathXplore (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Great work as always. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Cross-wiki abuse

Hi Koavf, I was told to reach out to you for help with this as I've no experience with wikiquote (I tend to stick to enwiki, eswiki, wikidata, and commons) .

An editor, Philip Cross, created the article on Mridul Wadhwa yesterday - it seems to border on an attack piece. It calls her (a transgender woman) "legally male", the enwiki article the sources seem to have been copied from actually explains she transitioned in India - she came to the UK with her passport already listing her as female. Furthermore, the source doesn't actually say she's "legally male", it quotes somebody suing her saying that.[5]

He adds quotes about her attacking her sourced to twitter like "Mridul Wadhwa is going to have to reframe his trauma."[6] In addition to adding abusive screeds from opinion columns describing them in edit summaries as "good sense"[7]: "However Wadhwa identifies, Wadhwa is a trans-activist who is prepared to harass and dismiss women who believe that biological sex is a reality. There is no room for discussion; one must bow down to a belief system that maintains gender trumps biological sex every time, that a man who says he is a woman knows best what rape victims need. Actual women do not get a choice."

This seems to be a recurring issue, he was recently taken to the wikiquote admin noticeboard for his editing at JK Rowling[8]. He was banned from BLPs and British Politics for disruptive behavior on enwiki, and blocked due to violating that ban in part by trying to manipulate the wikiquote articles corresponding the the articles he was sanctioned for, especially involving the intersections of trans issues, british politics, and BLP.[9]

I'm not sure how to proceed with this so would really appreciate your help putting a stop to this. Best regards, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk) 18:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: Here's how I take it: that's some BS. Blocking and deleting. Thanks, friend. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much, hope you enjoy the rest of your day! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk) 18:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Justin, was just reviewing more edits of his and a lot of big issues came up:

• India Willoughby is another near attack piece on a trans woman by him
• Robert Bromwich is another article created by him to just contain a quote about a judgement and add some editorializing (he has a clear pattern of putting "biological women" in wikivoice in place of "cisgender", calling the latter an activist term[10])
• Multiple POV edits to 2020s anti-transgender movement in the United Kingdom (I reverted it here[11]) and POV edits to Graham Linehan (I reverted here[12])
• He's created[13] multiple pieces on gender-critical activists that just contain quotes where they rant about trans people, quotes from other GC activists praising them for it, and usually contain misleading hatnotes while using offensive terminology in Wikivoice (Helen Joyce, Holly Lawford-Smith, Kathleen Stock, Julie Bindel, Jo Phoenix, Moira Deeming, Sarah Ditum, and Jenni Murray, Johann Lamont, Sharron Davies). Same with Debbie Hayton, which just quotes her own opinion columns
• Edits to Transphobia[14] with misleading summaries and offensive edits to Trans woman[15] and Transgender[16]

Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk) 22:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Wow. Merci, friend. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Explanation for special:diff/3601367

Hello, I thought this message was off-topic and should be reverted. Sorry if I was wrong about this. MathXplore (talk) 04:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, pobody's nerfect. I appreciate all you do, MX. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

The Father and News of the World

Can you please do something about The Father (2020 film) and News of the World? That IP user has done it again. I don't accept Fandom Wikis as reliable sources because they are user generated sites. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 06:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Please post to the talk page and encourage the IP to do so as well. If that doesn't work, let me know. Note that Directv's website lists "2021-05-04" (check the HTML). If everyone is interested in finding facts to just substantiate these claims, it would not be that hard. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I just told that IP user. Lord above only knows if that user will regret his actions. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 06:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Pussy

Hi Koavf,

Since you are an administrator on enwq I wonder if you would be kind enough to remove Protection from Pussy? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I could but why would I? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

See Talk:Women#Pussy protected Ottawahitech (talk) 16:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

If there's a clear consensus, I'd unprotect, but this is pretty much unilateral and it's for a pretty controversial term. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

How many at enwq are clear consensus? Ottawahitech (talk) 02:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I would post to the Village Pump and see if others think it's a wise idea. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I feel like you are not really interested, I may be wrong. Would you object if I approach someone else at enwq? Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 19:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't object and I'm interested in as much as I'm responding and giving you a directive that I think is best practice, but I definitely think you have a bad idea and the wrong perspective. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Why is it a bad idea? I am interested in finding out. Also would You mind explaining your thoughts at Talk:Women#Pussy protected to avoid repetition. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 00:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

"I would post to the Village Pump and see if others think it's a wise idea." —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Is wheel reverting really just as simple as three strikes in 24 hours and you're out?

I asked this question at the VP but thought I should ask you directly as someone who has responded to my questions previously.
How many times do you think an editor can revert someone before a block is justified? Is the answer different depending on what the page is and who the editors involved are? Is this something an administrator has ever been blocked for doing, if so, I would like to see some links. Does it matter how spaced out the reversions are? I've heard somewhere before that 3 revisions in 24 hours is too many, but what about just 1 revision every day, endlessly? I don't think endlessly undoing edits on your own is a particularly good use of anyone's time, because you could at least make it a team effort to try to demonstrate you are on the right side of the community's consensus, however I'd like to know what is allowed and what isn't and whether it's any more complicated than three strikes and you're out. If that's really how it works than all you would need to do to get another user blocked is wait for them to revert an edit, then, within 24 hours get them to revert you two more times, which seems counterproductive and like it incentivizes the behavior in question. CensoredScribe (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Endless reverts are also unproductive, so if editing devolves into that, it's not going to do anything for anyone. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you think the Administrator's Noticeboard would be a more constructive way of dealing with our differences in opinion or would the Village Pump be better? In general I like to ask whether other editors found any of the information in an edit I added new and if they remember it, or if it was an interchangeable technical description that could be confused with a dozen others. If you learned something and remember where you learned it from, it's probably worth including. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I really don't know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Is requesting arbitration from an administrator on a controversial article prone to reversions acceptable in your opinion?

I think Ficaia doesn't like quotes that aren't at least a hundred years old whereas most of the community will allow them. Either the admittedly boring science journals used by Wikipedia or the much more interesting entertainment articles not from Wikipedia included on the Abortion talk page should be mentioned. If I had to pick one I'd go with the entertainment, because it's more memorable. What do you think? CensoredScribe (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

To answer the question in the header: yes. To answer your second question: I have no particular opinion on this topic. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

As for the first question, thank you very much, that's good to know, I'm trying to be more sociable but also avoid being too annoying. As for the second, what's your opinion on "In fiction" sections in general? Most theme pages have quotes from fiction while most people pages specifically omit fictional portrayals to avoid confusing reality with fiction. I find it's mostly historical topics that get these sections and not themes, but we do this for war. I'm really not sure how useful it is for anyone that we do this, as long as there's a reference included than it should be pretty obvious when someone is talking about a work of fiction. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I also don't really have a perspective on this, honestly. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)