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Considering the recent unconstructive edits to your RfR, such as supporting yourself and showing you have not learnt from your blocks on other projects and past disruption on Wikiquote, I have decided to indefinitely block this account because at this point, you're clearly not helping this project and are wasting editors' time. Note that you have got extremely close to being blocked on multiple occasions, for example with copying templates from enwiki that aren't relevant to enwikiquote, redacting all your messages only for you to continue editing and marking innocent users as sockpuppets, despite being told to completely avoid editing other userpages. After all this and more, it is clear you are a net negative to the project. Making mistakes doesn't mean you'll be blocked. Making huge amounts of disruptive edits to the point you are having little to no positive impact on the project does. --Ferien (talk) 16:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: When I first read this message I was shocked, then I was terrified, then I realized that you are right. I have lost sight of what I really should be doing - improving this wiki. Every block that I have received I have learned nothing from, until now. I have realized now what I originally knew but forgot, that I need to improve a wiki by editing, not by debating. This is not a simple ploy to get unblocked, but revelation of how you have just saved me. Thank you and I will kindly request an unblock when I am ready to improve this wiki rather than harming it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 23:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

One other thing: I would like to just leave for a while, will my account be globally locked while I'm gone due to having four blocks? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 02:38, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

It might be, although considering you've only been locked for vandalism on one wiki, I don't think you are eligible for a global lock - it is only supposed to be used in cases of clear vandalism or spam. Ferien (talk) 05:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Thanks, but the reason I was concerned is that I have seen plenty of users with three blocks on their account that aren't locked, but I have seen much fewer with four. Also I have seen it be used against non-vandals who aren't banned, here's an example on our wiki. Anyway, I think part of my problem with editing is that I get concern that while I am offline something bad is going happen relating my editing (e.g. Blocks, declines, deletions, etc.), so I constantly check my account. Constantly check might sound like a good thing, but when I don't have any editing to do, I usually end out making much poorer-quality edits (often to discussions). I also have a tendency to do this when I have a poor sleep which probably isn't helping either. I think I am just going to Wikimedia projects for a bit, maybe I'll contribute a few patches to Phabricator, but I don't think I'll be editing much. I hope to return when I recovered from my negative editing mindset and can go back to making constructive contributions. Thanks. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 09:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Also, could you replace my user page with the {{Wikibreak}} template. Thanks. Hope to return to (constructive) editing soon. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 09:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Another issue that I have run into is that rather then requesting an unblock to edit, I have often done so just to be unblocked. I think this has also been a cause of disruptive editing as instead of trying to appeal so I can improve things, I appealed simply to prove the admin wrong about my editing, which often makes my editing worse. While I do plan to be unblocked here , I will for wait for when I want to edit, rather than when I want to be unblocked. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 09:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi@Ferien,

I was not aware that Ilovemydoodle was blocked when I came to this talkpage. I wanted to ask if we are still so worried about covid misinformation to cause us to remove all quotes that may be construed as such? I don't believe this will be helpful in the historical context.

See for example: Ottawahitech (talk) 16:19, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Ottawahitech, Ilovemydoodle has now been locked globally so won't be able to respond to your request. I think quoting someone who is known for promoting misinformation about covid-19 vaccines is generally a bad idea so I agree with ILMD's revert. --Ferien (talk) 16:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien: Also, just wondering if @Ilovemydoodle was ever informed by any admin that they were a candidate for an indefinite block, let alone a global lock because of their behaviour? If not, isn't it a rather drastic punishment for someone who acted in good faith? Ottawahitech (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Ottawahitech, I can't comment on the global lock part as I'm not a steward and did not believe ILMD was a candidate for a global lock, but with the indefinite block I placed: he was informed on this talk page on multiple occasions about disruptive editing, and while he did stop disruptive behaviour mentioned, for example copying templates from enwiki that didn't apply here, he would go ahead and do something else disruptive. This happened multiple times and admins warned that he would be blocked if he continued being disruptive on a couple of occasions. While we should be careful blocking editors editing in good-faith, disruption from good-faith editors can be just as harmful as disruption from bad-faith editors. If someone is more of a negative to the project than they are a positive and they don't improve their behaviour, then I wouldn't describe blocking as a drastic punishment but instead an action to stop disruption to the project. I hope this answers your questions, feel free to ask me if you have any other questions about this block. Thanks, Ferien (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the comprehensive response, @Ferien.

One of the reasons I am alarmed to see a block of a good faith editor is that I believe such blocks have a chilling affect on the community. I am saying this because I remember being new here and worrying every time I discovered someone who had been blocked at WQ, possibly years ago. It is very difficult to chase the reasons for blocks anywhere on wmf projects, and to ascertain that the blocked user was aware of the degree of disruption they were causing. This takes time away from improving content here.

Why is it that simple vandals get so many chances to improve their behavior when they get blocks of escalating duration, while so-called disruptive users are indefinitely blocked right off the bat? Ottawahitech (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Ottawahitech, could we move this discussion to another talk page, as this discussion seems to be talking more about blocks in general as opposed to Ilovemydoodle's block in particular. Ping me whereever you want to discuss it, whether it be your talk page or my talk page, I don't mind too much. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien Sure. How about the village pump Ottawahitech (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Ottawahitech, that's fine for me too. --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Template question

I have been told you have been globally locked for reasons that I have not been able to ascertain. I hope my trying to communicate with you will not reflect poorly on my own standing in this community.

Back to business: To my knowledge, you are the only user at WQ that has shown a lot of interest in templates. So I wonder if you, or someone else who reads your user-talk page knows how one can use Template:User for which I cannot find documentation.

I am looking for a template that participants at wq:shesaid#Participants can use to register for this campaign.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech Hi, here's the documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:User Lemonaka (talk) 02:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't know what the link you provided means. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:56, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

{{user|Example}} -> Example (talk · contributions). That's all there is to it. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Template:Under Construction

Hi Ilovemydoodle,

@User:UDScott has kindly informed me that this template already exists as Template:Inuse on enwq. Do you think it would be a good idea to simply redirect it? I hope you will be unblocked some day so that I can converse with you. Hope you are doing OK. Ottawahitech (talk) 16:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

At least on Wikipedia, {{Under construction}} and {{inuse}} are different templates. I see no reason the difference between them wouldn't apply to Wikiquote. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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