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Hi, welcome to my talk page! Please leave comments below. I will do my best to answer within 24 hours. Icelandic Landscape near Neskaupstaður July 2014.JPG

IP address ban and Mass deletion of articlesEdit

We hosted an event on the 25 June 2022 for for Art & feminism and we experienced an issue where there was a clash of IP address being the same and also having about 5 user accounts identified as sockpuppet for Leungo Mokgwathi who's work has been placed under mass deletion. So the following usernames were affected and all their articles are nominated for speedy deletion: Memory Macheza, Wathuto, Kutlomasa, Tntsholetsang, Ikobeng. So currently Leungo Mokgwathi cannot create any article too as all her work is placed under mass deletion. Articles from the following accounts are still marked for speedy deletion:Wathuto, Kutlomasa, Tntsholetsang, Ikobeng

@Kolobetsoo: Sorry! This was a mistake on my part for flagging the accounts, they seemed to be socks at the time, now I realize my mistake and am very sorry. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 10:59, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Can it be undone? because their work is marked for deletion Kolobetsoo (talk) 11:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
@Kolobetsoo: Just un-mark it. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 11:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

And nowEdit

Hi, thank you for your congratulations. As said, I'll do my best .... and as noted before, I'm very interested in empowering other editors who are willingly serve good causes. I wonder if you are also interested in serving this project as admin. In my eyes, you are a frequent participant, speaking modestly, and have known which edit be kept and not. Would you mind me recommending you for adminship on this project? --Aphaia (talk) 06:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Aphaia, thank you for asking me about it. It's something I may consider in the future, but not right now. I'd like to get a bit more experience with articles and other things here. I'm not sure how much experience Wikiquotians like to see for an administrator, but maybe I'll volunteer in a few months. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 08:38, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

a requestEdit

Please see: User talk:Tegel#reverting other's edits on my talkpage. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: Understood. I will note again though that the editor is WMF-banned, therefore people may still revert the edits made from him on your talk page. All his edits are eligible for reversion because he is evading a WMF ban. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

not sure if you were pingedEdit

Hi Ferien

I used the new Reply to post a followup to you on AN (Page protection). Did you get pinged? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 01:08, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

No, there wasn't a ping there, you have to use the button next to link on the reply feature or use one of the pinging templates. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 09:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Successful RfAEdit

I have closed your application for adminship as successful. Welcome to the corps. Should you need any assistance or advice, I'm sure myself or any of the other administrators will be happy to help in any way we can. Thank you for volunteering. GMGtalk 18:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations! Happy to see this. Antandrus (talk) 19:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your support, Antandrus :) --Ferien (talk) 19:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations and welcome aboard! ~ UDScott (talk) 13:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
And thanks UDScott, as well :) Ferien (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations! JavaHurricane 16:05, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Rollback questionEdit

Hi Ferien,

I see that you are using rollback and wonder if it is a tool that is also available for regular users? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 01:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ottawahitech. Unfortunately right now, rollback here is only available to admins, global rollbackers and Stewards, although I believe that there was some discussion recently about having rollback as a right for people who aren't admins – I will see if I can find that discussion later. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 09:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Table of Contents for categoriesEdit

Hi Ferien,

Good work on Category:Births by year!

This cat now contains over 400 entries which means a TOC will come in handy. Problem is: WQ does not have the template required for a numerical category table of contents, which I think exists on enwiki (w: Template:Large category TOC numeric).

Any idea how we can import this template into WQ? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:25, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ottawahitech, I've copied over the two templates from enwiki (with attribution in the edit summary). There are still quite a few cats to go for birth by year, I'll see if I can do those now. :) --Ferien (talk) 15:30, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


I came here to write about something, but just paused in astonishment at the Icelandic landscape. Never been there, but I'd love the peace and silence, and would happily trade my California sunshine this afternoon for that austere and beautiful view. Thank you for your help here. I think you're doing an excellent job adminning. (I want to start adding some quotes in my areas of expertise, but kind of need someone to watch my back, because you-know-who stalks everything I do on wikis where I am not an admin.) Anyway - thanks again. WQ is a better place now that it has your assistance. All the best - Antandrus (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm happy to help, Antandrus. :) With the Icelandic landscape: I've tried to find nice pictures for the top of my talk pages on wikis I remember to, this one was really nice. I've never actually been to Iceland I'd love to go one day, it's such a beautiful country. I probably won't be around as much for the next week or so but if I notice anything bad I'll probably still be able to help... And if you haven't noticed, there's now an abuse filter for him based on the simplewiki one and it has been very effective – can't say much more as the abuse filter's private but it's good. --Ferien (talk) 22:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
@Antandrus, Yes, the views of Iceland (or is it Greenland?) are awesome from a windowseat on a transatlantic ride. But are you REALLY ready to "trade California sunshine" with snow? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
@Antandrus: Did you know there are arctic foxes in Iceland that survive by swimming across rivers and eating seabirds? Over at Talk:Jeffrey Epstein we were discussing paywalls and it occurred to me that Netflix is a sort of paywall that unfortunately I cannot penetrate with a wiki link pointing to the episode of those foxes in Iceland. Too bad. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion tagsEdit

I'm sorry. I didn't pay attention to it. I'll be more careful next time. --魔琴 (talk) 07:47, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

@魔琴: it's ok, it's not a huge deal, just probably not the best use of your time. --Ferien (talk) 10:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
(I just opened auto revert and did my homework. Guess the vandal didn't know it.) --魔琴 (talk) 10:21, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete Talk: Northern Light?Edit

Hi Ferien,

I see you have recently deleted Talk: Northern Light with this rationale: Talk page of deleted or nonexistent page

I am not sure if it is appropriate for me to ask here(?): Why are talk-pages routinely deleted with this rationale? I think the admin who initially deleted the article page associated with this talk-page did what they did intentionally(?). Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ottawahitech, when a page is deleted, the talk page should be deleted because once a page is deleted, there isn't anything more to discuss. If someone thinks a page should be restored, then a discussion should be started on AN or deletion review (although that page doesn't appear to be very active). Most of the time when a talkpage isn't deleted, the most likely scenario is an admin just forgot. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 15:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Do you think I am doing too much, too fast here?Edit

Hi Ferien, I have been stuck at home in quarantine for a week, (not sick enough to abandon the internet tho.) The combination of time on my hands, and what I see as a readymade project (the sock articles) resulted in my doing a lot of edits.

I worry about being seen as trying to re-write Wikiquote. Antandrus has looked at some of my edits and given thumbs up. I imagine you are busy, but if you could just take a random look at a couple of edits from Special:Contributions/HouseOfChange, I would appreciate feedback, if you have time. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:52, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

HouseOfChange, I don't think you're looking like you're trying to rewrite Wikiquote. While I don't have much time to look at many of your edits right now, the ones I've seen appear to be fixing the POV that Libraryclerk0191 and sockpuppets added to pages, which is no problem at all. I also started actively editing during the third lockdown here in the UK as I had a lot of time on my hands. I hope you get better soon. :) -- Ferien (talk) 18:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Pope Benedict XVIEdit

What’s wrong with adding extra date information? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 19:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, it was mainly the switching of the dates that was the problem. The edit made to add extra date information was made by a WMF-banned editor. You are welcome to readd the comment, but I'd rather you didn't revert it directly with undo, as that'd look like you were trying to help a WMF-banned editor evade their ban. --Ferien (talk) 19:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Ok, re-adding. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 19:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


I was trying to communicate with User:PAVLOV to discuss their posting at User talk:Praxidicae#Risto hot sir but it appears their user-talk is protected? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:54, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, what could I do for you? PAVLOV (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
I've requested unprotecting of that user talk page. User talk pages should rarely be protected for administrators only. --Ferien (talk) 16:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

GRP blockEdit

Why don’t you block GRP indefinitely? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 06:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

IPs are rarely blocked indefinitely because they are often used by multiple different people. --Ferien (talk) 06:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Oh, didn't think of that. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 06:10, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


@Ferien I am redacting all of my edits. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 07:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Is there any reason why? There's rarely any need to redact edits. --Ferien (talk) 07:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I am trying to get my account *effectively* deleted. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 07:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
You could vanish your account if you wish to leave Wikiquote forever. However, there is no need for all your comments on talk pages to be deleted. --Ferien (talk) 07:43, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I would like to do that before vanishing. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 07:47, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
See the vanishing page
"Work on the project - Your work, including "signatures" (text indicating your authorship of comments) on all but your own user and talk pages, will usually not be changed or removed. To change these would be a major source of disruption. Individual revisions of individual pages that contain personally identifying information may be oversighted instead." --Ferien (talk) 07:51, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Well, what I would like to do is manually redact them and then have them oversighted. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 08:04, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
That probably won't happen, as a steward would have to give oversight to themselves to oversight all of the revisions and I have never seen that happen before. --Ferien (talk) 08:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Can an admin deleterevision them instead? – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 08:11, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Ilovemydoodle, there would have to be good reason to do so. As I said, vanished users' revisions are rarely deleted. They can be deleted on your own talk page, though. --Ferien (talk) 09:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I don’t want them deleted, just hidden. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 09:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Yes, rarely revdelled (revisions hidden from public view) is what I meant --Ferien (talk) 09:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
And Ilovemydoodle, is there any reason why you are also deleting the comments that are with the edits? You are removing other people's comments with little to no explanation and it is making a bit of a mess on village pump and other places. --Ferien (talk) 09:25, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I am trying to remove all information of me, generally I try to keep my comments and just remove my signature, but sometimes I have to remove them. I occasionally remove others comments if they give stuff away about me. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 09:30, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Ilovemydoodle, a lot of the comments you removed didn't give stuff away about you. I'll also point out that by redacting everything you are bringing more attention to yourself. --Ferien (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I am trying to hide information from GRP. – Ilovemydoodle (talk | e-mail) {DELETION IN PROGRESS} 10:43, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
This entire episode feels like trolling. If the behavior complained of continues as such, I am going to treat it as such. BD2412 T 07:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


Could you revdel this and other similar edits? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 16:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, that should all be  Y Done. --Ferien (talk) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
  The Admin's Barnstar
For revdeling all of those revisions.

Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 16:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

thanks for my first barnstar here :) --Ferien (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, also there should be more barnstars on Wikiquote. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 16:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


Could you fix the backlog at Wikiquote:Vandalism in progress? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 16:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I have answered quite a few requests on there, thanks for notifying me --Ferien (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Block requestEdit

Answered this block request because I thought that any reasonable person would decline it, I hope this is okay. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 21:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, unblock requests should be handled by admins. When an unblock request is made, admin attention is being requested and therefore, I don't think non-admins should respond to unblock requests. I just reverted the request because it is clearly trolling.--Ferien (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Okay, will not do in the future. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 21:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
@Ilovemydoodle: Also, I'd recommend changing your signature, as Antandrus is pinged every time you make a comment. --Ferien (talk) 21:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Oh. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 21:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


Sorry, just tried to help him, I won't touch an other user's page again. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 20:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ilovemydoodle, it's ok, but many other people don't like their userpages being touched. I don't find a problem with fixing typos or uncontroversial changes like those, but you probably want to ask before changing a page completely. --Ferien (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I asked. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 20:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Your feedback matters: Share your feedback in the Administratior accountability pollEdit

  The Administratior accountability poll is open, vote here. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 19:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


I really like your username, what made you choose it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 19:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, I didn't really put too much thought into it but I like it! I can speak some German (still learning though) and "Ferien" means holiday/vacation in German. It's one of the nicer words I encountered and as I wanted to give my Wikimedia username some meaning, I made Ferien my username. --Ferien (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Also, how do you pronounce it? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 20:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
There's a pronounciation at wikt:Ferien --Ferien (talk) 20:38, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
I personally say fair-ian. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 20:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
I guess I’m north-German now. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 20:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


Could you please block him? Blatant (likely intentional) violation of many policies. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 07:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


Could you undelete the page, then move it to User:Ilovemydoodle/Template:ConfirmedSockpuppet? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok. --Ferien (talk) 07:48, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done. Ferien (talk) 07:50, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Could you please do all revisions? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:50, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 Y Done, sorry I misread your original message. --Ferien (talk) 07:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
If any page or template I made significant contributions to (that isn't listed for author request or maintainence) is deleted, could you move it to my user page first? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 07:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

An idea for youEdit

Rather than deleting a page or template after a vfd, if there was (some) value still left in it, it could be moved to the 'deletion dump' where users could view it. They could use parts of the article or template in other pages that are working on, or they could create a fork of it and try to improve to the point where it could be re-created. What do you think? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Ilovemydoodle, sorry I forgot to respond to your message. I don't really see an issue in that. --Ferien (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


What was wrong with my change? (it certainly makes more sense than matching an outdated wikidata version) And how did I not give attribution? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 14:21, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: Not sure exactly how {{tl}} can be outdated, its function is very basic. You didn't give attribution because you did not say the page it was copied from on English Wikipedia. You said "changed to match Wikipedia" but that is not clear enough. It's usually best to give a diff of the version you are copying but you did not even give the page name, which is different from enwikiquote so yes, it needs specifying. --Ferien (talk) 14:28, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
It works incorrectly here, may I re-copy it while giving proper attribution? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 14:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
If you want to, but it appears to be working fine. Ferien (talk) 14:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
It does work, just not as it should. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 14:31, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

User:Will-SeymoreIII blocked as a sockEdit

Hi Ferien,

I have a couple of questions regarding your block of User:Will-SeymoreIII

I realize this block happened in pre-history and don't mind waiting for you to answer. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ottawahitech,
  • No, I wasn't aware of that discussion.
  • Not all socks need to be tagged, and I didn't see a need to tag at the time.
  • Vermont realised there was sockpuppetry here and you might remember we had a discussion about it at the time here.
Feel free to ask me if you have any more questions though. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 22:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Moving from Category:Women from Nigeria to Category:Nigerian actressesEdit

Hi Ferien,

Hi, at the end of 2021you moved all the contents of Category:Women from Nigeria to Category:Nigerian actresses. Can you please explain the rationale for that AWB move? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Ottawahitech, I actually reverted my category changes on the contents as I realised I made a mistake as you can see here. I also made the edit with Cat-a-lot, not AWB. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 17:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Well, I won't press this matter and have you retaliate by critiquing my own gaffe on that very same page on 22 October 2021 :) Ottawahitech (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2022 (UTC)