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Scrub pleaseEdit

[1]. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. I've been in and out. But it looks like someone else took care of it. GMGtalk 01:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/86.20.54.197Edit

This user clearly is not here to build an encyclopedia. Cheers! Nadzik (talk) 14:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

 Y Done GMGtalk 13:37, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Recruitment for WMF study on patrollersEdit

Hello GreenMeansGo,

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently conducting a study on how patrollers interact with IP address edits, and what kinds of IP information are most useful to patrollers. I noticed that you're active in anti-vandalism work on English Wikiquote, and would like to invite you to do an interview with us. It should take no longer than 30 minutes. If you're interested, please contact me via email, clo@wikimedia.org. Thank you for your time! CLo (WMF) (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Friendly letter recommodationEdit

Hy thr i saw you reviewed my edit im nt angry i'd like to ask for some advice on wikiquote if you would please i wanna do it personal my number is [redacted] can you send me info on that number please Angie williamz (talk) 02:51, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Angie williamz: generally you shouldn't be posting phone numbers publically like that. I have hidden it in the history, and suggest emailing GreenMeansGo using the "Email this user" feature if you want to discuss something privately. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks for the advice Angie williamz (talk) 03:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

  • I reverted your edit because you changed the text of the tag line for the movie. Quotes are just that. We don't edit them or update them to make them more agreeable. GMGtalk 10:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Block?Edit

I don't know what these two users are up to but it's nothing good. Please consider a block: Special:Contributions/14.139.153.162, Special:Contributions/Manasvip, Special:Contributions/Ashank07. Praxidicae (talk) 17:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Look like UDScott has already obliged us. GMGtalk 17:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

M.ZaidEdit

Thanks - that was my inclination as well, but I had already speedy deleted it a couple of times and wanted at least someone neutral to look at it. Thanks for pulling the trigger. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad you agree. It at least made intuitive sense to me. If I made a mainspace page for GreenMeansGo including all my favorite quotes from Mick Jagger, it would kindof seem to make sense that "no quote" means no quotes specifically from the subject of the article. GMGtalk 12:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Swati MaliwalEdit

Hello, I saw you deleted this page Swati Maliwal. I was looking for her quotes over the internet. This was my first page on Wikiquotes. I am supposed to make mistakes. But, at least you should've waited for a day. I didn't know how to move it to Draftspace or to userspace as we can do so on Wikipedia. Lightbluerain (talk) 12:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey @Lightbluerain:. It's perfectly fine to have works in progress, but new pages should include at least one quote. If you're having difficulty finding at least a single sourceable quote, then the subject may not be appropriate for a Wikiquote article. GMGtalk 15:49, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
She is a very notable personality in India. Check her Wikipedia Page. I just being new don't know what type of Quotes? What type of references, etc.? would go. That's why I was taking time. Should I make the page again now? Lightbluerain (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
@Lightbluerain: You're more than welcome to make a page. It's just a standard that has been adopted over time that we ought to be prepared with at least one sourced quote before we do so. GMGtalk 12:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. I'll take care from now on. Lightbluerain (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
@Lightbluerain: I'll be travelling internationally for the next little bit, but if I can ever be of any help at all feel free to stop by. I may not be prompt, but I'll be happy to help any way I can. GMGtalk 21:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Sure.Lightbluerain (talk) 18:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

YouTubeEdit

Hello, why can we not use YouTube links in sources? They give good source for statements, like the TEDx Talks and news reports. Also, is there any tool to add sources here as we have on Wikipedia? I can't find it; I doubt the source format I am currently using. Thanks in advance. Lightbluerain (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • @Lightbluerain: We generally don't allow primary sources for quotes about living people, as it allows...a great deal of leeway for individual editors to selectively quote things that happen to fit their particular point of view, especially when these are taken out of context. Personally, on any topic, I tend to add quotes as they are quoted in secondary sources, like newspapers, books or magazines. It kindof takes you as an individual out of the equation. Somebody already quoted it exactly as you are quoting it. We're not (at least in my opinion) really supposed to be creating anything. We're just curating and organizing it.
As to the sourcing tool, no. We do not currently have that imported to this project. I normally open my sandbox on Wikipedia, use the tool, and then copy/paste the wikitext. I'm afraid that while I have the technical access to import this tool, I do not have the technical expertise. GMGtalk 02:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. Lightbluerain (talk) 12:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

A Swallow Is BackEdit

Reviewing the newly archived application page, reading your thoughtful comment, a proverb his me: one swallow does not a summer make. Instead of lengthy requesting comment of mine, I'd have liked to cite it from Nicomachean Ethics. Thank you for reminding me on that line, however, it's my great regret I then forgot it completely :( Apparently I need more rehabilitation. --Aphaia (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

No worries. Try hard. Do well. That's all that is expected of any of us. GMGtalk 15:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

New user needs helpEdit

Hi I am new on Wikiquotes and I need help navigating through the platform. I need someone to teach me a few things. Do you think you can help? I am an experienced Wikipedia editor and I am confident i learn pretty fast.

P.S I am think of a online meeting on Zoom or Google meet. I just need to know the basics e.g notability. Prithee P (talk) 10:45, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

We actually have our own standard, which is WQ:QUOTABILITY, rather than notability. Of course, a highly notable person is more likely to be quotable (and it would require unusual circumstances for us to include quotes from someone not notable enough to merit a Wikipedia article). BD2412 T 19:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
An online meeting can be a good idea, last year we already did something like this on the Italian Wikiquote. --Spinoziano (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Could be a cool idea if there's enough interest. Maybe even a quarterly or monthly thing. GMGtalk 12:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I know that Superchilum and Camelia.boban wanted to do it in English too, and this year I am willing to appear too. If we repeat SheSaid next month, I hope it might be of interest to Prithee P too. --Spinoziano (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes, we will repeat #SheSaid next month, so I'am available for a online meeting. Here is the webinar we did with WikiDonne (in English, & in Italian). --Camelia.boban (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you all for your responses. @Spinoziano:, I know about the #Shesaid project and I am interested. I can run one here in my country. We can recruit new editors to Wiki quotes especially people interested in bridging the gender gap. Template:Replyto I have sent you a message on IG. Hope that is fine? I will also send you an email. I will looking forward to the online meeting. Thank you. P.s Thank you for adding the video link. Prithee P (talk) 00:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Thank you for involving me :-) unfortunately in November I will go to an expedition to Antarctica until the end of February, so I will not be available. I can help with some stuff until my departure, but not so much since I have a lot of things to deal with :-) anyway, if you need anything, try to ask me and I'll do what I can. Bye! --Superchilum (talk) 06:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

covid vaccine / miscarriageEdit

Hi GreenMeansGo

What is your opinion of this edit: https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Miscarriage&diff=3007642&oldid=2933410

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: It looks like a fairly poor quality source from a non notable writer, that takes a study saying "we find no adverse effects" and then figuring out how to do their own amateur math to reach the opposite conclusion of the study itself. Besides that, it's not particularly pithy or quotable. It's just a statistic, even if it wasn't an apparently badly calculated one. GMGtalk 13:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

COVID-19 vaccineEdit

Hi GreenMeansGo

The article COVID-19 vaccine has gotten a few updates with souces I am not familiar with on October 8. Can you please check if the edits are legitimate? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Just looking it over, still looks like it could use quite a bit of cleanup. Still quotes that are really just bare statistics. Quotes to quite low quality sources. Vox Populi, which seems to just be a personal blog. Substack, which is pretty much just a blog also. Direct quotes from Twitter, some by apparently non-notable people, others that can't be described as a quote at all, like Jimmy Wales just sharing a link. Sputnik, which is really just a state propaganda outlet. Some over quoting, like paragraphs of quotes from Nature.
I haven't looked to sort of exactly who added what, but it's probably safe to say a fair bit of content has been added to prove a point, and not for being high quality quotations from notable people or works. GMGtalk 12:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Category Activist stubs questionEdit

Hi GreenMeansGo,

On 6 January 2019 you created a Category:Activists stubs which currently has only two pages in it, even though Category:Category:Activist stubs had been in existence for two years. Just wondering if this was an oversight or something deeper? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Probably just a typo on my part. GMGtalk 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered usersEdit

Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Game of Death/The Game of DeathEdit

GreenMeansGo and wikidata? You deleted the page but could you solve the problem? Thank you 185.167.52.108 12:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

  • I don't understand what the problem is you're trying to solve. GMGtalk 14:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
    Hi GMG, on Wikidata Game of Death (1978) there is Wikipedia (Game of Death film 1978) and Dialogue but The Game of Death (1972) there aren't Dialogue on Wikidata The Game of Death (1972). Can you help me please? 15:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC) 185.167.52.108 15:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
    You can always create an article on Wikiquote for The Game of Death (1972). I'm afraid I don't read or speak Cantonese. So I'm not sure how much help I can be other than that. GMGtalk 16:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
    No Cantonese but on English. Ok I go The Game of Death (1972). Thank you very much! 185.167.52.108 16:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
    Dear GMG Can you help me? I would like to incorporate this page into this wikidata 185.167.52.108 09:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
    Incubator is kind of a testing ground or sandbox, and as far as I know, isn't supported by Wikidata. It's meant to be an internal project and not something for public consumption. GMGtalk 12:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
    Ok Thank you 185.167.52.108 18:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
    Hello GreenMeansGo, I'm sorry to bother you but I have a problem here with the User UDScott. I am very helpful but he is always full of doubts, could you help him? Please! 185.167.52.108 23:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
    Please! please! please! help me with the User UDScott here 185.167.52.108 17:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure how much help I can be here in a detailed dispute. I don't speak the language. I don't know that we have anyone at all who is active on this project who does speak the language. GMGtalk 14:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

RfA closeEdit

I have no objection to your closing the discussion, but I did have an eye on it to do so today. BD2412 T 06:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • @BD2412: Sorry if I got in your way. I just know we've had quite a few in the past that have languished for a bit. Given the level of disruption around this one in particular, it seemed prudent to wrap things up. I didn't expect much objection given that only one regular user opposed. But if you think it will be wiser, please feel free to reclose as someone completely uninvolved.
Maybe it's not a bad idea to draw lots and assign one of us to sit out an RfA and be the designated closer. GMGtalk 11:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
I don't think it's an issue, but I went ahead and reclosed just to avoid any question. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:Trusted ListEdit

The page was not a test page, can you please reinstate it? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

  • @Ilovemydoodle: You are free to keep personal lists in your user space, as you have created already. However, these are not appropriate for public-facing name spaces like template space. GMGtalk 22:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
    Then, can you please give me the source of the deleted page? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
    It is the same as the list on your user page that you can access by clicking the hyperlink on your name. GMGtalk 22:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
    The list on my name used that template and no longer works now that that page was deleted. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
    @Koavf Could you give me the source of that page? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 02:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
    • UDScott
    • ShakespeareFan00
    • Ottawahitech
    • Antandrus
    • HouseOfChange
    • Koavf
    • Ferien
    • KalkiJustin (koavf)TCM 02:10, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
      yes, interesting..
      The way the system here is designed is to have templates in the public part of the wiki, and btw, thanks GMG for clarifying that at WQ users can put their own private thoughts on userspace. It is a shame though that we cannot use template, category and what-have-you technology also into userspace Ottawahitech (talk) 12:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
      Well, you can use Templates in user space via transclusion. — Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 11:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
    It's generally just a commonly recognized divide across projects. It can be confusing for readers if we unexpectedly delve them into internal dialogue. GMGtalk 13:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey there!Edit

Why did you delete my page, I created how the article says "what if 2020 was a person?" I added many details, but somehow, you deleted it for no reason. Thank you if you explain this. --204.129.232.191 18:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey anon. Wikiquote only hosts pages on subjects that are considered notable, usually meaning that they have been widely covered in published sources. Often a good measure of this is whether they have an article over on Wikipedia. It seems highly doubtful that the question of "what if 2020 was a person" has been the subject of significant published sources, and one-off references to YouTube videos don't really count toward that. GMGtalk 18:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Oh, the text isn't real, I added information that "what if 2020 was a person" I made the information by myself, and since there are no reliable sources, I used links and blog posts to support hose sources. Apologies, but my article I created was not meant to be taken seriously, it was made humorous and too entertaining . I inserted fun into those edits to entertain the readers and viewers. And I added trivia and different plots in order to use imagination. Thank you! 204.129.232.191 18:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
We also don't host original content purely for entertainment purposes. I'm afraid you will have to keep that to social media, blogs and the like. GMGtalk 19:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Can you explain why this wiki not host original content for entertainment purposes? 204.129.232.191 19:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
It's just isn't within the established scope of the project. We're intended to be a collection of educationally useful quotes on broadly important subjects. It's a bit like asking why Instagram isn't for sharing software and short stories. It just isn't. There are places beside Instagram which are for those other things. GMGtalk 19:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Also, why Wikiquotes aren't a crystal ball? What if 2020 came to your house? What would you do? 204.129.232.191 15:48, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
It did come to my house. GMGtalk 15:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Explain why it is not a crystal ball? 204.129.232.191 16:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Because you can't cite sources that don't yet exist. It's a reference to fortune telling. GMGtalk 19:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Admin accountability pollEdit

  Admin accountability poll is open, vote here. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 10:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Block backlogEdit

@GreenMeansGo: Could you please fix the backlog of block requests? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:38, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

WQTEdit

Could you please make WQT a namespace? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 10:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

  • Namespaces are part of the software. GMGtalk 11:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Could you ask on Phab? (I can't for complicated reasons). – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Why? Even if I did, it would probably be ignored because there doesn't seem to be any justification for the request. GMGtalk 11:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    It’s very useful for shortcuts. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    That's not really a justification. The volunteers on Phab are not going to commit to creating an entirely new namespace so a few users on a small project can occasionally save a few keystrokes. GMGtalk 11:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Why can’t it be added just for Wikiquote? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    It doesn't really matter one way or the other. Making some redirects isn't a justification for creating an entirely new namespace. GMGtalk 12:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Well, WP exists on Wikipedia and WQ exists on Wikiquote. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 12:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    "WP" isn't a namespace. It's a namespace alias. The Wikiquote talk namespace exists. That's why you can access Wikiquote talk:Administrators' noticeboard. Talk spaces are automatically created for all namespaces other than...ummm...virtual spaces like Special. Aliases are just...kindof like project wide automatic redirects. But project talk space here is so exceedingly rarely used it would take decades to recoup the effort put into getting someone to make a project talk alias. GMGtalk 12:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    I would like "WQT:" to be an alias for "Template:". - Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 12:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I'm not really concerned about that either. There's something like 150 templates on the entire project. Feel free to go ask, but I don't think anyone on Phab is going to care. They're going to tell you the same thing I'm going to tell you: Even much larger projects like Wikipedia and Commons don't have a template space alias, and it's not worth implementing for the half dozen people here who might actually eventually use it. GMGtalk 12:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Only 150 Templates, really? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 13:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Probably around about that which are regularly used. There's 170 in Category:Templates without documentation, but for some, it's anybody's guess what they're even supposed to do. If you don't count the 80 or so stub templates, probably half the existing templates could be deleted and nobody would even notice. GMGtalk 13:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Wait, according to the statistics page I have imported ~200 Templates from Wikipedia, does that mean I have created the majority of them? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 21:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    Well...I'm doing a bit of back-of-the-envelope guess-timation on just how many of these templates were made by someone once a decade ago and no one on the project even knows they exist. AKA not templates that would actually benefit from a namespace alias. I'm also discounting — as I indicated — about 80 stub templates, because I don't think anyone has those memorized, and they're probably doing like I do, and just going to the category to find the right one. GMGtalk 12:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

2a02:8084:9840:cd00:7cd9:59c8:b937:d156Edit

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2a02:8084:9840:cd00:7cd9:59c8:b937:d156Edit

Should you block ::/64? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 13:47, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

  • Are you referring to 2a02:c7d:ec4a:cd00:7147:9a9c:2586:54ca? God no, even if it was problematic. That's not a /64, it's a /16...so...like 5x1030 IP addresses. GMGtalk 14:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
    ??? I’m not, I thought you were just meant to do ::/64 in general. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 14:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
    Sigh. You don't need a range block unless someone is hopping IP addresses. So...Imagine someone is riding on a high speed train and every few minutes they jump cell phone towers and change IP address. So you put the addresses into a calculator to get the range, but it blocks everything between the addresses. So you have to be careful how big it is. There have been times in the past on other projects where someone accidentally blocked like an entire cell phone provider for an entire country because they weren't paying close attention. GMGtalk 14:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
    w:User:TonyBallioni/Just block the /64Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 14:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
    As it happens, Tony taught me quite a bit of what I know about range blocks. But no, I don't do range blocks as a matter of course, not even on Commons, and this is a much smaller project with much less traffic. GMGtalk 14:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Mario and Sonic Adventures 4: Leyend of the of the Abominable SnowmanEdit

Can I see the revision history of the page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 15:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

  • No. It's just one of our old friends. Probably a bored child on summer vacation. GMGtalk 15:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
    Can you tell me who created the page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 15:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Stuartjack479Edit

I think permanent block is too long, maybe three months? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 10:47, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

  • It's a bot. GMGtalk 10:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
    Oh. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 11:26, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
    Yup. GMGtalk 11:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

UaecltEdit

Did you get pinged to that page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 11:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

  • No. And if you're getting at what I think you're getting at, I'm not entirely too keen on being pinged every time someone drops a deletion template. GMGtalk 11:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
    Not a deletion Template, just block request Template that should only be used if the user is being VERY diruptive. — Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 11:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
    We generally use things like categories for stuff like that. So someone can pop in, check a maintenance category, and clean it out of they have time. If I'm trying to resolve something at c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and I'm getting 15 pings from templates on Wikiquote, I'm not going to be a happy camper. GMGtalk 13:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)