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@Saroj Uprety: (talkcontribscentralauthpage movesblock userblock log)

Possible sockpuppet of problematic editor Fourlaxers, constistently makes incorrect edits without providing legal, reliable sources and violates rules on quote limitations (while also adding excessive unnecessary emphasis). I request indefinite protection of all those articles, and that the IP be blocked for a long period of time. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


@Saroj Uprety:

Plumerlumber (talkcontribscentralauthpage movesblock userblock log)

Consistently violates rules on quote limitations, adds excessive unnecessary categories, etc. Requesting any term of blocking of this user and indefinite protection of all articles they touched. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
There are no rules on quote limitations. For proposed rules see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
1. You are not helping. IP user had numerous blocks for the same reason: Persistent copyright violations. See its block log.
2. This is not WQ:VIP. I am reporting a problematic editor, not a vandal. DawgDeputy (talk) 15:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I hereby state why I don't have the right to edit Wikiquotes page? This is my first time editing Wikiquotes. The page says you can help by editing. So the first page I edited was the page Wreck-It Ralph. As I am very interested in these articles, I thought why not edit them? So the first edit was adding these two casts. Taffyta Muttonfudge (voice) and Markowski (voice). If you can reference the original Wikipedia article, the casts are stated there too. Next I added categories of 2010s American animated films, American children's animated comic science fiction films, American children's animated science fantasy films, Category:American computer-animated films, Category:Animated films about friendship, Category:Animated buddy films, Category:Films about children to the categories list. That is all I did for that page. And the user DawgDeputy reverted the edits stating the reason was "Wrong categories." If you can happen to view the original Wikipedia article the same categories are listed. I tried to do the same thing to two other articles as you can see in my log. However this user DawgDeputy, whom I am assuming is a moderator is ruthlessly reverting my edits as if I am some sort of vandal. I want to edit in good faith. What am I even doing wrong. I might have hurt his sentiments by adding a lead to Brothers Bear page, but its stated the same in its Wikipedia article. I don't want to be confrontational at all. Seeing how there are actually moderators above. I really want to get an answer why my categories are wrong, why my edits are false, why I am a copyright vandal or a problematic editor? I am threatened with possible IP ban when all I want to do is simple edits? Plumerlumber (talk) 13:11, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • @DawgDeputy: It's difficult to tell how something like Wreck-It Ralph doesn't qualify as a "American computer-animated film". I'm inclined to point out that you are required, and not requested to discuss disagreements with other users before you come here demanding indefinite blocks and indefinite protections. GMGtalk 17:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
First and foremost, if you have "open eyes" go to Wikipedia page for Wreck-it-Ralph and scroll down to categories section, and search for the term "American computer-animated films." If you have "eyes" you should be able to locate the category. Now This film is American and it is computer animated. So I simply copied and pasted that category from Wikipedia to Wikiquotes. Do you have a problem with me doing that? Second of all what does the last part of your sentence even mean? When did I "demanding indefinite blocks and indefinite protections." All I said previously was "moderators" please tell me what am I doing wrong. I did not demand anything. Plumerlumber (talk) 13:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • First, while yes we want to trim quotes to a reasonable level when they get out of hand, it is correct that we do not have anything but a proposed rule with regards to limits on the number of quotes. Second, I don't believe that the categories that were added in your example were inappropriate - they seem to fit to the work on the page. Third, while there does seem to be a disagreement between you and this user, I fail to see why they should be blocked indefinitely - and your demand that they be so blocked just seems like another example of hostile behavior towards other users who do not share your views. ~ UDScott (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
None of them do. Some were even redundant. DawgDeputy (talk) 18:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
The limits on quotation states "Five quotes maximum per hour, i.e., about one quote every 12 minutes. Quotes not assigned to specific characters are discarded. Recommended maximum length of quotes: seven lines by one character, ten lines of dialogue. Taglines do not count towards the total number of quotes." I will abide by that rules. All I did was add a two line quote to one of the articles. All I want to do now is add a lead to Brothers Bear, add categories, and I won't even add a quote now to Brothers Bear. Deal? Seriously, this user is acting as if I am some sort of Disney attacker. I am not. I am actually unemployed, very poor currently. ~ Plumerlumber 13:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I added categories to two articles and a lead to one article. I am stating it my actions beforehand showing I am not a vandal. Plumerlumber 14:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Who said you were a vandal? You are nothing more than problematic. Major difference. DawgDeputy (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Admins I request you to look into this issue. I edited to the barest minimum. I used the principle of least privilege and even then user DawgDeputy reverted my edits. This user has some sort of vendetta against me ever since I started editing. I will continue to revert the user's edits, because I don't see where I am wrong. If need be the user is the one who needs to be put into the noticeboard, not me. Plumerlumber (talk) 20:46, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Redundancy is where you are wrong. Adding categories that do not fit the article, as well as categories that are not necessary. DawgDeputy (talk) 23:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Second time reverting edits by Dawg.Plumerlumber (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Numerous problematic IP users made similar edits on numerous articles long before you, and they were all undone (because they were wrong). I have no vendetta against you in particular. Just the edits. DawgDeputy (talk) 03:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Third time reverting edits by Dawg.Plumerlumber (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Will you stop pointing out how many times I am undoing your unnecessary edits? It is unnecessary to do so. You really need to leave the articles alone until a consensus is reached. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:12, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
No discussion at Talk:Wreck-It Ralph? If I were an admin I'd be considering blocking you both for a week for edit warring. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I find Plumerlumber's activities here to be suspiciously precocious and aggressive, given that they only created an account a few days ago and have never had any activity on any other wiki. BD2412 T 20:19, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Did you mean to say "never had any activity using the Plumerlumber user name on any other wiki"? Or is there a rule against using different names on different wikis? Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 21:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
All usernames are global now, meaning that if you register for a username on any wiki, you have that username on all wikis. Wikimedia is a single and entire project. The prohibition against using multiple accounts on a single wiki reasonably should carry over to other wikis. I can't think of an above-board reason why an editor on one wiki would want to conceal this activity in editing another. As for this specific editor, unless they choose to identify some other username under which they have edited elsewhere, there is no way to know that they have edited other wikis (or here) under a different username. BD2412 T 18:23, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone I decided not to edit Wikiquotes anymore. I mean it said in the account creation page, Wikiquote is made my people like you. "Anyone can edit pages in Wikiquote, including this one - just select the Edit this Page link on the top or bottom of this page if you think it needs improvement. You don't need special credentials, you don't even need to be logged in. You can try your hand at editing in our sandbox." So I created an account. Doesn't mean I have to do my same account from Wikipedia. Then I edited using the principle of least privilege which is categories. I even tried to say how Brothers Bear was the last traditional animated film from Disney. The only quotes I added was a two line quote that was missing in Brothers Bear. Apparently, all I did was wrong. Everything was problematic, redundant, and harmful including the categories from the literal Wikipedia page, the Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB external links and that lead in Brothers Bear. My contributions are simply like dirt to people like you. I don't want to fight or be confrontational. I simply quit. Thanks for everything.Plumerlumber (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Do we still have the rule "Don't bite newcomers"?--Arvatkaa Kuka (talk) 01:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Where has that ever been "the rule" on this project? WQ:BITE has been a proposal since 2006. BD2412 T 06:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Arvatkaa Kuka, BD2412 has concluded that Plumerlumber is not a newcomer to Wikimedia wikis and, hence, does not entitled to the protection of that rule courtesy. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:25, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Even if they were, "Don't bite newcomers" is not a suicide pact. A newcomer who immediately engages in uncivil conduct or makes counterproductive edits after being informed of policies against them need not be given free reign to continue this behavior. BD2412 T 17:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the information!--Arvatkaa Kuka (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


The message to display on error is "undefined", which should be fixed. Leaderboard (talk) 10:03, 17 May 2021 (UTC)