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Black Hawk DownEdit

You created this page but forgot to put any quotes on it. Rmhermen 17:30, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I suppose I could try to claim it was a work-in-progress, or that I've been so busy with other important projects that I haven't had time to work on it. But the fact is, I created the page intending to put the quotes in later... and forgot all about it. When you have time, take another look at Black Hawk Down; it isn't quite finished, but I've done some work on it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --RPickman 05:57, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Grosse Pointe Blank (1997)Edit

Thanks for your work on this page; some very good quotes were left out until now. I did some minor editing: tweaked the format on your quotes so they match the rest of the page removed a couple (omelette sequence, bit about president of Paraguay) that appear elsewhere on the page; moved a couple from "Dialogue" to individual character sections.

You have been nominated for adminshipEdit

  • I have recently nominated you, and three other users who have been active at Wikiquote for adminship. The opportunity for voting and comments must last a week before any actions can be taken. Please post your response at Wikiquote:Requests for adminship. Thanks for all your help. ~ Kalki 13:46, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your vote. There are not as yet any bureaucrats on this project, which is why I nominated myself. Things here have been getting much busier lately, and the need for more sysops was becoming obvious. ~ Kalki 17:15, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think every project should have its own bureaucrats as well as its own admins. Rmhermen 17:29, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Admin overlapEdit

I was amused to see your tagging of You Kicked My Dog for speedy deletion. With the furious cleanup activity you, Aphaia, and I have been engaged in in the past two weeks, I figured it was only a matter of time before two or more of us reviewed a page and took different tacks. ☺ I had just left a Talk-page query for the anonymous contributor to encourage them to replace the test page with useful content, as I suspect it was (eventually) intended to be quotes from a strange web cartoon called "You Kicked My Dog". (This was one of the pages I did some sleuthing on, mostly out of curiosity.) On the other hand, I'll bet there are dozens (maybe hundreds) of pages like this that utterly fail to provide useful content to Wikiquote, so your delete tag was obviously justified.

If I'm not mistaken, I'm the most junior Wikian of the three current Wikiquote admin candidates, so I've preferred to be less bold in my maintenance tasks than I've been as an editor. Kalki's practice of encouraging replacement of junk with good content instead of just deleting the junk has given me pause on deletion tagging. However, I'm concerned that Wikiquote might be becoming a battleground between junk-page creators and serious contributors who follow in their wake to add material. The latter can never win, as it takes one or two orders of magnitude more time to do the job right, especially since such a small crew can't be expected to know each and every subject well enough to do the job well. (I've wrestled myself on this issue over film and TV quote pages. I could just replace or augment junk pages with IMDb quotes, but I'm usually scrupulous about adding only quotes I can verify, especially since IMDb's quotes are massively riddled with errors.) If we had 10 or 100 times the number of serious contributors, that'd make the battle more even.

Anyway, I've been waiting to becoming an administrator so I'd have some additional credibility when I start querying the Wiki community in general about the advantages and disadvantages of deleting pages that may eventually have useful content, but are not expected to anytime in the foreseeable future. (I'm sure there must be some precedents; otherwise, one would be tempted to create a bot to generate empty or minimal pages from huge lists of people, works, and themes that might someday have quotes.) Meanwhile, I don't imagine it makes much difference in the long run that we may do different things. After all, admins are no more of one mind than contributors, and most anything can be undone if people change their minds later, eh? — Jeff Q (talk) 17:49, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info on page deletion. I knew it was possible to "undelete" a page (not that that's really the issue here, as we hardly need a test page), but I wasn't sure how much it might be frowned upon, or if it would cause any additional challenges when someone created another article with that title. I gather that neither of these is any big deal, so long as people aren't cavalier about what they delete. (And as long as it doesn't involve images, which is largely moot here. I'm still unsure about Categories, one of which I just tagged for speedy delete. If I understand correctly, the main issue is ensuring that no articles link to a Category before deleting it, which is easy to do.) There are some aspects of maintenance that are tied to Wiki infrastructure elements that I'm still learning. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:58, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Question about length of quotesEdit

I am curious, is there a limit to how long a quote can be? I plan to add a very lengthy quote by Confucius. —JarlaxleArtemis 19:42, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This is currently being debated on the Village Pump but there doesn't seem to be any consensus. Wikisource exists for full texts, though. Rmhermen 21:10, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Category schemesEdit

Not to be pedantic, but I restored the {{vfd}} tag on Wikiquote:Category schemes because the vote is still in progress. I think that the notice is the best way for people who don't monitor the VFD page to find out that a page they use may go away, so that they can object. Besides, I just had to revert Mateusc's removal of the tag from Reirom, and I didn't want him/her raising the reasonable objection of unequal treatment. — Jeff Q (talk) 07:09, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No, perfectly reasonable. Bit embarrassed that I forgot about it. Rmhermen 15:17, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I forgot to thank you for getting that page and its corresponding discussion going! I've been so busy with Deletion stuff that I failed to give credit where it was due. Excellent job! — Jeff Q (talk) 10:42, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Congratulations! You are now a sysop here. I've already mentioned to Jeff Q and Aphaia that all of you have been doing great work, and that I am certainly now no longer the most active sysop here. I will be very busy at least a few more days with other projects, and not as active here, but I know there are now many reliable people able to take care of any problems that come along. ~ Kalki 18:53, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations for your promotion. It is a great joy to have an experienced sysop like you on the project. If you find any my tweaks or fault, please feel free to correct them and/or point them out? Cheers, --Aphaia 00:58, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Transwiki historiesEdit

Since you've been an admin on Wikipedia for a while, I was hoping you could answer a question I have about page histories that are included in the transwiki process. The one from the Go article I recently completed transferring had the following text:

This page was transwikied from List of contributors:
*[2004-11-16T08:57:44Z] Hu (A small ''raison d'etre'')
*[2004-11-16T09:04:52Z] Hu ("A few moments to learn, a lifetime to master.")
*[2004-11-16T09:07:37Z] Hu (Cho Chikun quote regarding developing children.)
*[2004-11-16T09:08:42Z] Hu (Fixed wiki link.)
*[2004-11-16T16:55:05Z] Hu 
… 19:21, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

(I abbreviated and compressed it so as not to take up too much of your page.) Do you know how to easily grab this text from a page history? I can't help but think there's a link or procedure for fetching it in this specific format, which is quite different from the way it's displayed by the "History" tab. Thank you for any pointers you can provide. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:42, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No I don't know how that is done and have seen it on other pages also. I note that the example of preserving edit histories given on the Mediawiki:Transwiki page, [1], gives a result that looks like I would expect it to. So I guess that cut and paste is an acceptable method. Also I note the directions there note that it is permissible to immediately deleted a page once it is properly copied to the transwiki area. Rmhermen 21:57, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reirom VfDEdit

Aphaia, Kalki, Rmhermen: I'd like to ask you folks to review the Reirom VfD. I think we've given it enough time for a decision, especially since the Wikipedia article has been deleted as well. I'd do it myself, but I've been too involved in researching its legitimacy and policing for sockpuppets and now forged signatures (two of which I just removed). I'd like a more neutral admin to consider its state. Thanks. — Jeff Q (talk) 02:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries in VfD nominationsEdit

Could you make a point to include the name of the articles you nominate for VfD in the edit summary when you create new entries? When you add a new entry by editing VFD#Boilerplate or another VfD entry without changing the edit summary, it puts the wrong text in the VfD history, making it hard to determine when a VfD was started. The problem will go away if we adopt the "Add a new deletion request" link in Wikiquote:Proposed Votes for deletion, but in the meantime, it'd be helpful to check this before saving. — Jeff Q (talk) 00:35, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion archive formatEdit

Do you have any objections or suggestions about a quick implementation of the Proposed Votes for deletion archive format? Aphaia and Kalki have said that they're in favor of it as it stands, and with you, we're the four people who are actively maintaining the archive, so I think we can go for a quick decision on this. I've announced that I'll convert it sometime after 0:00 17 April 2005 (UTC) if there are no objections. (I'm not trying to railroad anyone on this; it just seems like there's no controversy about this change. But if you have a concern, please correct my mistake!) Thanks. — Jeff Q (talk) 20:15, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No objections here. User:Jni has been active in technical matters recently you might ask him/her. Rmhermen 20:22, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Protection from moveEdit

Just now, I protected your user page and your talk. PusAss vandal, or assumingly WoW moved mine nad Jni's pages. I think the sysops' pages will be most frequently targetted and the effect and confusion from their move on a bad faith is worst to the community, when an editor ask a sysop a help. If you think my protection is inappropriate, please unprotect your pages. I think the pages of other three most active Wikiquoters would be better to protect from move, too, specially if they request. --Aphaia 08:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Grosse Pointe redirectEdit

Just wanted to thank you for taking care of this. Grosse Pointe Blank is the first page I ever did any significant work on, and the (1997) tacked onto the title has been bugging me for months. --RPickman 22:33, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Academy Award VfDEdit

Rmherman, I see you added your signature to the Academy Award VfD, but you didn't mention what your vote was. ☺ Could you update your entry? Thanks. — Jeff Q (talk) 22:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RfA ThanksEdit

Thank you for supporting my RfA. I very much appreciate your confidence in me. It felt nice to gain an unanimous support from all currently active admins. I'll try not to break anything with my new powers! Please let me know if you see something I should (or shouldn't) be doing as an admin. Regards, jni 06:15, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Wayne's vs. WaynesEdit

Since you have done a lot of work on that page can you tell if there is anything on Waynes World that needs to be added to the correct page before it gets redirected? Rmhermen 13:04, 2 May 2005

Removing the merge tag was indeed a mistake. Sorry. I've taken a careful look at Waynes World. It appears to be identical, down to word order and 1 case of eccentric spelling, to the Wayne's World page before I started fiddling with it. I suspect the original contributor forgot the apostrophe, then he (or someone else) duplicated the page with the punctuation corrected. I'd suggest deleting the Waynes version if practicable; if you do merge the two, please notify me so I can clean the added material up to match my previous work. --RPickman 20:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Replacing sister project images with Commons imagesEdit

I just received a request from Schaengel89 of Wikimedia Commons to replace the current Wikinews image used by Template:Otherwiki with an image from Commons. (I don't know why they asked me, rather than post it to WQ:AN.) This led me to determine the current state of such images, and I found that you had earlier created redirects for the sister projects' images, apparently to make them clickable. However, when I clicked on the icons on the Main Page, I jumped to the images' pages, not the associated projects' main pages.

I therefore have two questions for you:

  1. Was this just an idea that didn't work, or am I not getting the purpose of the redirect on the image pages? I want to know, because...
  2. Should we hunt down these images with Commons replacements and substitute them all? I see no reason to keep Wikiquote images if Commons has them. (If we do, the purpose and functionality of the redirects becomes important.)

Thanks for any insight you can provide. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:38, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I did work initially. I copied the technique from Wikipedia. A few weeks ago it stopped working. I think someone said something about interwiki links being shut off but I don't know how that could be true. Rmhermen 03:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Forgotten Vote?Edit

You seemed to be for deleting Self-proclaimed deities but neglected to vote for it on WQ:VFD. Since I assume it was an oversight, I want to draw your attention to it. Thanks, MosheZadka 04:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Category linkingEdit

I was befuddled by the fact that categories with subcategories but no direct entry showed up as red links. Therefore I added a Category:Categories tag to the categories in question. What may I do that is acceptable about making sure that the new categories don't show up as red? Benn M 16:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, dude. I appreciate it! Benn M 16:58, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I used to be able to create entries on Wikiquote. Why can't I now? -- Benn M 17:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, friend. Problem solved! -- Benn M 17:31, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I will be gone till Aug. 1. Rmhermen 19:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back & request for mail confirmationEdit

Hi, Rmhermen, welcome back to English Wikiquote.

During your absence, Wikiquote:Requests for adminship was updated and all active sysops are requested to provide an email address to the community either through wikimail or on their talk (as you may know, now we need to activate and confirm our address before using Wikimail function.

The new rule says:

In principle, administrators should register a valid email address and allow other users to send them messages in preferences, or an email address indicated on their user page. For active sysops, as well sysop candidates, it is mandatory. Inactive sysops and guest sysops are recommended to put their wikimail addresson their talk pages. If they are back and become active again, they are expected to activate their mail preferences.

Since we have no way to mail you, I put this message on your talk. Would you please consider the requirement above, and give us an oppoturnity to mail you?

Thanks! --Aphaia 10:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed you have not edited here in quite a long time, and are listed as an inactive administrator. Do you think there is any chance you will be back? Cheers! BD2412 T 04:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Category:Japanese poetsEdit

Risto hot sir has requested that I ask the community about what should be done regarding the numerous articles listed under Category:Japanese poets. You will know what I mean after you read a few and start to see the trend. They are all a possible copyright violation, they are all of non-notable people who don't even have a Wikipedia article, they are all from one source and they all clog up this category. You can read more about this here, here, here, and here. Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 22:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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