Talk:Australia
Unsourced
edit- Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas.
I'm inclined to believe the Kep Enderby quote, but I can't find a primary source. I could find this 1989 article from The Sydney Morning Herald, though. What do you think I should do? Orthogonal1 (talk) 00:35, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Images and selected captions
editI'm not quite sure why some of the quotes were selected as captions. They appear to me to be inappropriate - and I previously changed some of the captions to more neutral descriptions of some landmarks from Australia. Now they are changed back to inflammatory quotes about the country that seem to me to violate NPOV. ~ UDScott (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- I have just had a short time to glance at things presently, but I definitely agree many of these captions are very inappropriate, and have apparently selected to be defamatory and inflammatory, and should definitely not be provided such leading prominence as some of them have. I don’t have time now to do a thorough review, or attempt at revision, as I must be leaving soon. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've removed the inflammatory quotes from the captions for the time being. I wasn't aware people would object to them so harshly. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister 20:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
White Australia/Fred Phelps deletions
editI have deleted all quotes about the White Australia policy, and from Fred Phelphs of the Westboro Baptist Church. I have removed the White Australia quotes, because there were way too many of them, not to mention the fact that they were all in support of a White Australia. As an Australian who is vehemently opposed to the White Australia policies of long ago, I realise that there may be a conflict of interest, but I think that it is fair to say that while there is still much racism in Australia, there are very few supporters of a White Australia nowadays.
The quotes from Fred Phelps about hating Australia didn't really provide much value, in my opinion. The Westboro Baptist Church hates practically everyone, and I don't really see the point of including this information in the article on Australia. Orthogonal1 (talk) 06:55, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- I put the quotes back, because they were properly sourced. If one is worried about imbalance, then one can add more positive and flattering quotes to balance it back out. Removing quotes because they may be seen as unflattering to a subject by some is considered to be POV whitewashing and goes against the impartial spirit of Wikiquote. Remember, the inclusion of a quote does not necessarily mean the endorsement of its content by Wikiquote. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister 22:09, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. I've moved the quotes on race into their own section. Orthogonal1 (talk) 08:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, the introduction of subsections such as this is frowned upon because it inherently adds a POV in teh display of quotes and makes it sometimes problematic on where to place quotes. I've returned the page to accepted style, sorted alphabetically by author. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Don't you think that there's a POV involved in the selection of these quotes, and the decision to place the inflammatory statements in boldface, though? Orthogonal1 (talk) 20:59, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Given no response, I've removed the boldface. Orthogonal1 (talk) 21:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, the introduction of subsections such as this is frowned upon because it inherently adds a POV in teh display of quotes and makes it sometimes problematic on where to place quotes. I've returned the page to accepted style, sorted alphabetically by author. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. I've moved the quotes on race into their own section. Orthogonal1 (talk) 08:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
@Illegitimate Barrister: In my opinion, the proper place for unrepresentative racist quotes is the pages of their respective authors, not the theme page about a country... ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:04, 28 May 2015 (UTC)