Talk:Kamala Harris

Latest comment: 7 days ago by Cagliost in topic Quotability

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Merge to Kamala Harris

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Kamala D Harris has been suggested for merge to this article. Only one quote, which I am moving to this article. Clearly no reason for the isolated fork created in December 2023 to exist. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Agreed Ficaia (talk) 13:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
You really didn't need to make this a discussion and as an administrator you should have known that page should have never existed to begin with. Do you know about Wikiquote:Speedy deletions? CensoredScribe (talk) 00:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
My plan was to move the sole quote and then turn Kamala D Harris into a redirect. Ficaia, who could also have chosen to SD but did not, did the redirect before I got to it. Thanks for your feedback. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@HouseOfChange: re:"Ficaia, who could also have chosen to SD".
The above implies that @Ficaia is an admin at enwq, because only admins can speedy delete pages, I think? Am I right? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I for one appreciate admins who share information with the community instead of assuming that they know best. Just my $.02 Ottawahitech (talk) 16:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dispute concerning image quote added to lead sections

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The DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based upon nothing. No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors and balloons in a highly produced Chicago circus.I do interviews everyday. Everyone who asks gets to interview me. Sometimes I do 10 a day. President Trump also does many interviews. How could the Democrat Party choose a candidate who refuses to do an interview?~ Robert F Kennedy [1]

According to Wikiquote:Image use policy, "Multiple images should not be placed at the top in the lead section of an article."

Per BRD, a disputed addition to the article needs consensus if anyone objects to it. HouseOfChange (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have added that lengthy quote (divided in half to improve quotability) to the page for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. ('not Robert F. Kennedy as the original caption suggests. There is no reason the quote-halves couldn't be added also to the Quotes About section of this article for 2024. They don't belong at the top of the page, and the image has very low relevance to the quote. HouseOfChange (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Referring to Trump as a she?

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The October, 2024 quote by Harris from People (magazine) contains a factual error using "she" instead of "he". This is important for us at enwq because the he is Donald Trump.

In a conversation on the Call Your Daddy podcast, released Sunday, Oct. 6, host Alex Cooper asked the Democratic presidential candidate to respond to the Republican's controversial comments that her kids keep her "humble" while “Kamala Harris doesn’t have anything keeping her humble.” "I don't think she understands that, there are a whole lot of women out here who, one, are not aspiring to be humble, two, a whole lot of women out here who have a lot of love in their life, family in their life and children in their life," Harris, 59, said. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you followed the link, you would find that Harris is referring to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, governor of Arkansas. There is no mention of Trump. w:Wikipedia:Competence is required Cagliost (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unsourced quotes

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The following quotes are taken from a quote aggregator site and do not provide original sources:

  • “We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have taken this seriously,”[2]
  • "I was raised by a mother who said to me all the time, 'Kamala, you may be the first to do many things — make sure you're not the last.' "[3]
  • 'Democracy is not a state. It is an act[4]
  • Respect the names that people are given and use those names with respect."[5]
  • You can't just think that the body starts from the neck down[6]
  • "It's important to be able to laugh at yourself and each other and we do a healthy amount of that.[7]
  • We have a lot we need to handle in the days ahead but I know together we can get it done."[8]
  • My mother and father, they came from opposite sides of the world to arrive in America[9]
  • "Anyone who claims to be a leader must speak like a leader. That means speaking with integrity and truth.[10]
  • "Your vote is your voice, and your voice is your power.[11]
  • "Optimism is the fuel driving every fight I've been in.[12]
  • "When I look at young girls and boys, and they look at me, they see themselves, and what they can be. That's the weight that I carry, and the joy of the weight.[13]
  • We can't let up the fight to address maternal mortality in America[14]
  • "Family means everything to me. I've had many titles throughout my career, but 'Momala' will always be the one that means the most to me."[15]
Suggesting Harris cannot handle Chinese President Xi Jinping

UDScott (talk) 14:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Quotability

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We have a pretty low bar on Wikiquote for adding quotes, and a pretty high bar for removing them, as per Wikiquote:Quotability. If someone else has added a quote, I generally assume that quote has some significance, even if only to the person adding it.

However, some of these quotes are so boring! Users are adding multiple, repetitive, long quotes from mediocre Harris speeches, which are unlikely to stand the test of time. I'm skeptical they have significance even to the person adding them. I am removing them. Cagliost (talk) 07:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have restored much of the material recently removed, and added a couple images.
In your recent extensive edits of this page you removed MUCH material that had many intelligent statements and notable points of political arguments, that I am sure will not interest people habitually uninterested in such things. Though I can agree that whoever posted nearly the full concession speech in one single block should not have done that, I find it somewhat remarkable that you here rail against adding repetitive mediocrities as quotes, and then in that instance removed much extremely meaningful material, and in place of it retain only the first sentence of it, and add to it only such repetitive mediocrities as are common in initial statements of many political addresses by many people, of diverse parties and factions, as if that were the most important of things she said, or as if all that followed was of no worthy interest, in your particular opinion.
With the exception of the last two sentences, you added all of this trite repetitiousness:
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good—Good afternoon everyone. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, good afternoon. Thank you all. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So let me say, [crowd screams "love you"] and I love you back, and I love you back. So let me say, my heart is full today. My heart is full today.
That was all that you retained of her concession speech — and removed extremely notable, quotable and widely quoted comments from the body of it:
  • Now I know that folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. I get it. But we must accept the results of this election. Earlier today, I spoke with President-Elect Trump and congratulated him on his victory. I also told him that we will help him and his team with their transition. And that we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power.
Though it should not have been posted as it had been, MOST of her concession speech was actually quite remarkable, making extremely significant points on the nature of American democracy, save the very remarks you added as if they such relative trivialities of introduction were all that should be noted of her statements. I strongly disagree with what I perceive to be clearly arrogant acts and I have restored these quotes, and most of your other quite extensive removals from this article. ~ ♌︎Kalki ⚓︎ 04:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi Kalki, You are a prolific contributor to Wikiquote, so I assume you don't have a particular interest in the topic Kamala Harris. You added nineteen quotes from Harris's 2024 speech to the Democratic National Convention. This is too many. I tried to pick out one or two that were actually interesting, I really did. But none of them stood out. If you would select one or two that you find particularly quotable, that would be helpful.
I do not claim they are all contentless. I do not claim they are vapid politician-speak, talking lots but saying nothing. On the contrary, many contain statements of policy that are clearly datable to 2024. But political policy is not quotability. So please pick out some you genuinely think are quotable.
Finally, please do not add excessive irrelevant links to Wikiquote. Links should be relevant to the subject, Kamala Harris, to help aid the reader's understanding. For example, I added a link to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You added links, in a single paragraph, to country, mothers, children, transparency, fear, safety, families, kids, parents, wrong, America. This is ridiculous and you should not do it.
It would be helpful if some other editors can weigh in about which of us, if any, is behaving reasonably. Cagliost (talk) 08:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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