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  • I do my best to find underlying cause of the disease to treat patients. Killing the cause, not symptom is the key to healing.
    • Doctor Fathi Arafat, Man of Peace[findagrave.com/memorial/190302164/fathi-arafat]


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  • A bad cold wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't for the advice of our friends.
  • A cough is a symptom, not a disease. Take it to your doctor and he can give you something serious to worry about.
  • A cripple of the worst sort, and consumptive into the bargain.
  • A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.
  • I have a headache, my tummy feels hurty, I feel sick, quite frankly it'd be less trouble if I just had cancer.
  • A healthy body is the guest-chamber of the soul; a sick, its prison.
  • After these two, Dr. Diet and Dr. Quiet, Dr. Merriman is requisite to preserve health.
  • A man's health can be judged by which he takes two at a time ... pills or stairs.
  • Eat right, exercise regularly, die anyway.
    • Author Unknown
  • First need in the reform of hospital management? That's easy! The death of all dietitians, and the resurrection of a French chef.
  • From the bitterness of disease man learns the sweetness of health.
  • Half the modern drugs could well be thrown out the window, except that the birds might eat them.
  • He who has health has hope; and he who has hope has everything.
  • He who takes medicine and neglects to diet wastes the skill of his doctors.
  • Health is a large word. It embraces not the body only, but the mind and spirit as well;... and not today's pain or pleasure alone, but the whole being and outlook of a man.
  • Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being, and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
    • World Health Organization, (1948).
  • Health is like money, we never have a true idea of its value until we lose it.
  • Health is merely the slowest way someone can die.
    • Author Unknown
  • Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.
  • I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol.
    • Author Unknown
  • I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth forgoing just for an extra three years in the geriatric ward.
  • I see rejection in my skin, worry in my cancers, bitterness and hate in my aching joints. I failed to take care of my mind, and so my body now goes to hospital.
  • I think you might dispense with half your doctors if you would only consult Dr. Sun more.
  • If by gaining knowledge we destroy our health, we labour for a thing that will be useless in our hands.
  • If I'd known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
  • If you do everything you should do, and do not do anything you should not do, you will, according to the best available statistics, live exactly eighteen hours longer than you would otherwise.
  • If you have health, you probably will be happy, and if you have health and happiness, you have all the wealth you need, even if it is not all you want.
  • In a disordered mind, as in a disordered body, soundness of health is impossible.
  • In order to change we must be sick and tired of being sick and tired.
    • Author Unknown
  • It's bizarre that the produce manager is more important to my children's health than the pediatrician.
  • It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like.
  • Know, then, whatever cheerful and serene
    Supports the mind supports the body too.
    ~ John Armstrong
  • Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good as bacon.
  • Like everybody else, when I don't know what else to do, I seem to go in for catching colds.
  • Live in rooms full of light
    Avoid heavy food
    Be moderate in the drinking of wine
    Take massage, baths, exercise, and gymnastics
    Fight insomnia with gentle rocking or the sound of running water
    Change surroundings and take long journeys
    Strictly avoid frightening ideas
    Indulge in cheerful conversation and amusements
    Listen to music.
  • May you live as long as you are fit to live, but no longer! Or, may you rather die before you cease to be fit to live than after!
  • Men make use of their illnesses at least as much as they are made use of by them.
  • Men that look no further than their outsides, think health an appurtenance unto life, and quarrel with their constitutions for being sick; but I that have examined the parts of man, and know upon what tender filaments that fabric hangs, do wonder that we are not always so; and considering the thousand doors that lead to death, do thank my God that we can die but once.
  • Nature does require
    Her time of preservation, which perforce
    I her frail son amongst my brethren mortal
    Must give my attendance to.
    ~ William Shakespeare
  • Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane.
  • Our body is a machine for living. It is organized for that, it is its nature. Let life go on in it unhindered and let it defend itself, it will do more than if you paralyze it by encumbering it with remedies.
  • People who are always taking care of their health are like misers who are hoarding a treasure which they have never spirit enough to enjoy.
  • Physical ills are the taxes laid upon this wretched life; some are taxed higher, and some lower, but all pay something.
  • Physick, for the most part, is nothing else but the Substitute of Exercise or Temperance.
  • Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you!
  • Sickness is poor-spirited, and cannot serve anyone; it must husband its resources to live. But health or fullness answers its own ends, and has to spare, runs over, and inundates the neighborhoods and creeks of other men's necessities.
  • Sickness is the vengeance of nature for the violation of her laws.
  • So many people spend their health gaining wealth, and then have to spend their wealth to regain their health.
  • The appearance of a disease is swift as an arrow; its disappearance slow, like a thread.
  • The longer I live the less confidence I have in drugs and the greater is my confidence in the regulation and administration of diet and regimen.
  • The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd druther not.
  • The power of love to change bodies is legendary, built into folklore, common sense, and everyday experience. Love moves the flesh, it pushes matter around.... Throughout history, "tender loving care" has uniformly been recognized as a valuable element in healing.
  • The trouble with always trying to preserve the health of the body is that it is so difficult to do without destroying the health of the mind.
  • The... patient should be made to understand that he or she must take charge of his own life. Don't take your body to the doctor as if he were a repair shop.
  • There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry.
  • There are two things in life that a sage must preserve at every sacrifice, the coats of his stomach and the enamel of his teeth. Some evils admit of consolations, but there are no comforters for dyspepsia and the toothache.
  • There's lots of people in this world who spend so much time watching their health that they haven't the time to enjoy it.
  • They claim red meat is bad for you. But I never saw a sick-looking tiger.
  • Those obsessed with health are not healthy; the first requisite of good health is a certain calculated carelessness about oneself.
  • To avoid sickness eat less; to prolong life worry less.
  • To feel keenly the poetry of a morning's roses, one has to have just escaped from the claws of this vulture which we call sickness.
  • Water, air, and cleanliness are the chief articles in my pharmacopoeia.
  • What some call health, if purchased by perpetual anxiety about diet, isn't much better than tedious disease.
  • "Health is what my friends are always drinking to before they fall down."
  • I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint.

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House of change, this edit removed six different authors, of which half were not even theosophists. (And some especially the earlier theosophists may be quotable on some pages, although not to the extent that they have been added to pages). As BD2412 said, I would suggest that rather than merely deleting them, you should move them to the respective talk pages of the pages you are working on

See also Template:Remove, which says : Quotes should never be removed without a comment in the edit summary, and should almost always be moved to the Talk page with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning.

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  • Realize the healing power of prana. The torpor of life is dispelled in the pure rays of the sunset.
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden, Book One, The Call, 138. (1924)
  • That which is the most dear but least of all belonging to us is the best load to carry on the way. Song brings us health, and blossoms will heal wounds. Therefore, I say, happy are those who understand sound and color. From the very beginning the prophets have noted sound and color. The ancient instruction about the ringing of bells is full of meaning.
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden: Book Two: Illumination, 108. (1925)
  • Avoid uniformity, as to both place and work. Actually, uniformity accompanies that greatest fallacy, the concept of personal ownership. First of all, the slave of property loses mobility of spirit..
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden: Book Two: Illumination, 327. (1925)
  • Some say that work can be fatiguing and even injurious to the health. Thus say lazy and inert people. Understand that work properly apportioned cannot in itself be fatiguing. One should understand how to effect a proper change of the group of working nerves, and then no fatigue can find access. Do not try to find rest in idleness. Idleness is but the microbe of indolence.
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden: Book Two: Illumination, 336. (1925)
  • When a physician prescribes a diversified treatment, time and opportunities are found to carry it out. In the same way one can find a rational change of work. This concerns all kinds of labor. It is sad to come upon that immobility of mind which impedes the work of the higher centers.
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden: Book Two: Illumination, 336. (1925)
  • People do not think enough about the natural environment. They are quite content with basic sanitary measures, and the essential foundations of life are overlooked. It is not possible to promote health without a proper understanding of psychic life... the association with those whose attention is focused upon illness can only intensify the fear of disease and aggravate their ailments. It would be good to remember the remedy of ancient times when sick people would go into seclusion and remain close to nature. This was done not only in cases of contagious diseases, but when the organism was in need of renewal. Even now, there are those who prefer to live in mobile homes or in tents. Of course, a collection of many tents in one place only replicates urban conditions, but the fact that people dream of and look for seclusion reveals a healthy instinct for the preservation and restoration of health. We transmit thoughts of health, but of health correctly understood. It is especially important to think about health now. Many people are aware that the destruction of the nervous system has reached an extreme point. They understand that progress is impossible on this path of decay, but only a few know the significance of health in its full sense.
  • It is not psychology with its indifferent analysis that is needed, but enlightened striving toward the restoration of health. There are many cases of city dwellers who take jobs as farm laborers to escape the sickening environment of the big cities. This is a praiseworthy decision if one knows how to avoid crowds in the new environment. Let us recollect various quests in which people sensed the need to change their unhealthy conditions. A longing for nature should be combined with psychic joy, otherwise the seeker will begin to weep at the first rainfall or other discomfort. The time will come when physicians understand that the human organism can fight diseases without outside help.
  • Contact with the sun should be much sought after, and the vitalization that comes through its rays. The sun kills all germs and frees from disease.
  • The free use of salt sea bathing has a definite effect on the healthiness of the physical body. The water, incidentally absorbed through the medium of the skin and by the mouth, has a vitally prophylactic effect.
  • From one angle, disease is a process of liberation, and the enemy of that which is static and crystalised. Think not, from what I say, that therefore disease should be welcomed, and that the process of death should be cherished. Were that the case, one would cultivate disease, and put a premium on suicide. Fortunately for humanity, the whole tendency of life is against disease, and the reaction of the form life upon the thought of man, fosters the fear of death. This has been rightly so, for the instinct of self-preservation and the preservation of form integrity, is a vital principle in matter, and the tendency to self-perpetuation of the life within the form, is one of our greatest God-given capacities, and will persist. But in the human family this must eventually give place to... [viewing] death as the organised, freeing process...
  • You must all advance by taking good care of your health. Only by taking good care of your health, you can gain success. The fact is that if your health is not good, how can you do your service? Taking care of your health is as important as any of the other duties of your life. It is your duty towards your body. If your body does not work, how will you function and advance?
  • Sickness is the first warning that we have made a wrong judgement. A healthy person is never unhappy.
    • George Ohsawa, in Essential Ohsawa : From Food to Health, Happiness to Freedom : Understanding the Basics of Macrobiotics (1994), p. 77.
  • In many countries there is now an interest in apiculture. Many more useful properties of bees are being discovered. The venom secreted by bees cures certain diseases. It is said that one or two stings by a bee cure the most chronic rheumatism.
  • Healing is not a miracle. The Atonement, or the final miracle, is a remedy, while any type of healing is a result. The kind of error to which atonement is applied is irrelevant. Essentially, all healing is the release from fear. To undertake this, you cannot be fearful yourself. You do not understand healing because of your own fear. p. 3
  • Without your will you cannot be rehabilitated. Motivation to be healed is the crucial factor in rehabilitation. Without this, you are deciding against healing, and your veto of my will for you makes healing impossible. If healing is our joint will, unless our wills are joined you cannot be healed. This is obvious when you consider what healing is for. Healing is the way in which the separation is overcome. Separation is overcome by union. It cannot be overcome by separating. p. 181
  • Healing is the result of using the body soley for communication. Since this is natural, it heals by making whole, which is also natural. All mind is whole, and the belief that part of it is physical, or not mind, is a fragmented (or sick) interpretation. Mind cannot be made physical, but it can be made manifest through the physical if it uses the body to go beyond itself. By reaching out, the mind extends itself. It does not stop at the body, for if it does, it is blocked in its purpose. A mind which has been blocked has allowed itself to be vulnerable to attack because it has turned against itself. The removal of the blocks, then, is the only way to guarantee help and healing. Help and healing are the normal expressions of a mind which is working through the body, but not in it. p. 189
  • Do not look to the god of sickness for healing but only to the God of love, for healing is the acknowledgment of Him. When you acknowledge Him you will know that He has never ceased to acknowledge you, and that in His acknowledgment of you lies your Being. You are not sick and you cannot die. But you can confuse yourself with things that do. Remember, though, that to do this is blasphemy, for it means that you are looking without love on God and His creation, from which he cannot be separated. Only the eternal can be loved, for love does not die. What is of God is His forever, and you are of God. Would He allow Himself to suffer? And would He offer His Son anything that is not acceptable to Him? If you will accept yourself as God created you, you will be incapable of suffering. Yet to do this, you must acknowledge Him as your Creator. This is not because you will be punished otherwise. It is merely because your acknowledgment of your Father is the acknowledgment of yourself as you are. p. 230
Thanks for doing the work I neglected of posting the quotes I removed. I did this myself for quite a while after getting the suggestion from BD2412 in April, 2022. If you find, or anyone finds, a notable, quotable quote in the list above, feel free to re-add it. I did leave a couple of "shortened-to-quotable" quotes from Agni Yoga. I have no vendetta against theosophy or any or the other non-standard religion-based health advice I removed, although I think it a bit weird for Wikiquote to promote truly bad "health" advice about the benefit of sun-tanning and sea-bathing. HouseOfChange (talk) 22:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for replying. Some of the quotes might possibly fit on other pages, not necessarily on this page. --ᘙ (talk) 12:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Long-winded expressions of opinion that nobody is likely to quote are not, in fact, quotable quotes.

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I just removed this recently-added quote, doubting anyone would "quote" this pompous non-expert:

  • Before my birth it was understood that vitamin C fixes scurvy and vitamin D rickets. Prior to the 20th Century, we already had vaccines for smallpox, cholera, anthrax, and rabies. The 1920s saw insulin, penicillin, and vaccines for Diphtheria, tuberculosis, whooping cough, scarlet fever, and tetanus. In later years, we got vaccines for Yellow Fever, Polio, Measles, Mumps, and Rubella. Since my birth, we’ve seen vaccines for chicken pox, Hepatitis A and B, meningitis, Lyme disease, rotavirus, and possibly malaria and ebola this year. Obviously we have not stopped the march, and that’s encouraging. But consider that the amount of funding poured into medical research has skyrocketed in my lifetime, so that the progress per dollar spent surely is going down. The easy battles were fought first, naturally. Cancer, Multiple Sclerosis, and a raft of other pernicious diseases resist cures despite large continuing investments.
    • Thomas W. Murphy, "You Call This Progress?" (September 16, 2015)

Also, stating my own POV, it seems stupid post-COVID to assume that medicine's only future job is fixing problems known in 2015. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:09, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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  • How much new health there is in diversity of place and of labor!
    • Agni Yoga, Leaves of Morya’s Garden, Book Two: Illumination (1925)
  • Lugal-murub the son of Zuzu, the master-scribe of Nibru, has fashioned for Nintinuga his messenger (?) dog Tuni-lu-sag. That is why the dog will wag his tail or bare (?) his teeth for his mistress the queen of heaven and earth, the provider of food, the stewardess of Enlil, the sweet breast satisfying all lands, the bringer of abundance, who can diagnose the intentions of the virulent asag demon and who checks people's bones; who examines the sinews of life and the sinews of death, comforting those joints; who knows every sick spot where there is affliction, torment or distress -- the kindly physician, the exorcist to the sick, who looks after the hearts of humans.
  • Scarcely more than two generations had tasted the fruits of industrialization when the growth of population was still further accelerated by truly effective death control. The role of microorganisms in producing diseases was discovered. In 1865 the practice of antiseptic surgery began. It serves... as a reasonable demarcation of the beginning of an era filled with related breakthroughs in medical technology: hygienic practices, vaccination, antibiotics, etc. The total effect of this recent series of achievements has been to emancipate mankind more and more from the life-curtailing effects of the invisible creatures for which human tissues used to serve as sustenance. Like other prey species newly protected from their predators, we have been fruitful and have so multiplied that we have much more than "replenished" the earth with our kind.
    These achievements in death control re-channeled the effects of industrialization; they increased the rate at which human population could increase. More of the unprecedentedly rapid rise in apparent carrying capacity resulting from industrial drawing down of resource stocks was devoted to supporting population growth, and less was devoted to supporting enhanced living standards, than might otherwise have been the case.
    Death control was a real boon to the first three or four generations that experienced it. Increasingly, parents were spared bereavement during their child-rearing years, and people of all ages were spared the suffering and debilitation that infectious diseases used to inflict. Fewer children became orphaned. Fewer adults became widowed in the prime years of life.
    But all these benefits helped us to overshoot permanent carrying capacity. For most people, as this was happening, "carrying capacity" remained an unknown phrase. The concept was absent from the paradigm by which people... perceived and understood their world. Industrialism had given us a temporary increase in opportunities-a very dangerous blessing. Death control gave us a further rapid increase in population not based on a further rise in carrying capacity. Thus, [...] mankind came into a really precarious situation.
  • The most effective route to achieving optimal health is by channeling the intrinsic methods that the human body has developed during its hundreds of thousands years on Earth. Recommendations that drastically diverge from this pattern will likely lead to poorer health, which is indeed what has been witnessed over the past three decades.
  • …act to protect the health and well-being of our employees.
Protecting access to the full range of reproductive health care, including abortion, is a critical business issue. Efforts to further restrict or criminalize that access would have far-reaching consequences for the American workforce, the U.S. economy and our nation’s pursuit of gender and racial equity.
  • Will you touch, will you mend me Christ?
    Won't you touch, will you heal me Christ?
    Will you kiss, can you cure me Christ?
    Won't you kiss, won't you pay me Christ?
See my eyes, I can hardly see
See me stand, I can hardly walk
I believe you can make me whole
See my tongue, I can hardly talk.
See my skin, I'm a mass of blood
See my legs, I can hardly stand
I believe you can make me well
See my purse, I'm a poor, poor man.
  • Without your will you cannot be rehabilitated. Motivation to be healed is the crucial factor in rehabilitation.
    • ?
  • Any action is often better than no action, especially if you have been stuck in an unhappy situation for a long time. If it is a mistake, at least you learn something, in which case it's no longer a mistake. If you remain stuck, you learn nothing. Is fear preventing you from taking action? Acknowledge the fear, watch it, take your attention into it, be fully present with it. Doing so cuts the link between the fear and your thinking. Don't let the fear rise up into your mind. Use the power of the Now. Fear cannot prevail against it.
    If there is truly nothing that you can do to change your here and now, and you can't remove yourself from the situation, then accept your here and now totally by dropping all inner resistance. The false, unhappy self that loves feeling miserable, resentful, or sorry for itself can then no longer survive. This is called surrender. Surrender is not weakness. There is great strength in it. Only a surrendered person has spiritual power.
  • Illnesses are part of the cycle of nature; they disproportionately take out the old and the weak. Of course, we humans don’t really like this; the old and weak are our relatives and close friends. In fact, some of us may be old and weak.
    In the last 100 years, researchers (using fossil fuels) have developed a large number of antibiotics, antivirals and vaccines to try to suppress illnesses. We find that microbes quickly mutate in new ways, defeating our attempts at suppression of illnesses. Thus, we have ever-more antibiotic resistant bacteria. The cost of today’s US healthcare system is very high, exceeding what many poor people can afford to pay. Introducing new vaccines results in an additional cost.
    Closing down the system to try to stop a virus adds a huge new cost, which is disproportionately borne by the poor people of the world. If we throw more money/fossil fuels at the medical system, perhaps it can be made to work a little longer. No one tells us that disease suppression is a service of fossil fuels; if we have an increasing quantity of fossil fuels per capita, perhaps we can increase disease suppression services.
  • The greatest achievement of humanity is not its works of art, science, or technology, but the recognition of its own dysfunction, its own madness… To recognize one’s own insanity, is of course, the arising of sanity, the beginning of healing and transcendence.
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