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Re: The Vector 2022 skin as the default in two weeks?
editHello everyone, I'm reaching out on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team responsible for the MediaWiki skins. I'd like to revisit the topic of making Vector 2022 the default here on English Wikiquote. I did post a message about this almost two years ago (where you can find all the details about the skin), but we didn't finalize it back then.
What happened in the meantime? We built dark mode and different options for font sizes, and made Vector 2022 the default on most wikis, including all other Wikiquotes. With the not-so-new V22 skin being the default, existing and coming features, like dark mode and temporary accounts respectively, will become available for logged-out users here.
So, if no large concerns are raised, we will deploy Vector 2022 here in two weeks, in the week of September 16. Do let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, it's still terrible unusable garbage. Sorry for not pointing that out earlier! DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Altering another user's edit history to include death threats
editMaybe I'm the only one here who has ever noticed another user's page being scrubbed clean of offensive comments they later regretted making. It wasn't on this particular Wiki but on Wikipedia. I assume it could happen here as well and it might be even easier given the vastly smaller number of page views and users. But for those of you who haven't personally witnessed it happen before, let's say that hypothetically someone could change page histories. Doing that for main space pages is going to get noticed obviously because those pages have lots of page views, but what about a talk page? Only users normally look at those. The village pump here gets a lot of views in part because we have fewer discussion pages than Wikipedia, so I think Wikiquote might be harder to tamper with. But hypothetically, say someone altered another user's contributions to include death threats of the kind that warrant immediate action from law enforcement (I think it would be wise for me not to specify further with any specific examples or say which law enforcement agencies would be tasked with that, but you get the point.) Or alternatively, what if someone created a sock puppet which was determined to be linked to your account. Do you think law enforcement agencies are going to immediately trust our records and the amateur detective work of Check User? Of course not, they are going to do their own investigations because they don't trust a bunch of amateur journalists who call arguing with one another wars and who have a single investigator that doesn't leave any notes that can be reviewed. I also don't think they are going to like the fact that a wiki makes it easier to make anonymous death threats or attribute them to others, and they might mention that to the media next time a government official gets asked about Wikipedia. So when was the last time a government official got asked about Wikipedia during an interview and what were they asked about? Does anyone have an answer? CensoredScribe (talk) 19:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- No.
- I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this div with your comment. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
How does Wikiquote treat malicious quotes
editThere are quotes which are spoken to convince other people to be malicious, such as encouraging discrimination. How does Wikiquote treat such quotes if they have reached notability standard? DutchOff (talk) 01:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you've taken a look at Wikiquote:Policies and guidelines, you may have seen that we defer a lot of content policies to en.wp. Even there, we do not link to w:en:WP:NOTCENSORED and the only thing that really comes close to what you're describing is Wikiquote:Neutral point of view. So inevitably, if you have a list of quotations for Adolf Hitler, you're going to have some pretty vile sentiments and we try to be comprehensive, so a important historical figure like this will have to have relevant, but grotesque quotations. I think the only real guideline here is good judgement: make sure that if you are adding what could be viewed as a pretty controversial or malicious quotation, ensure that it's actually notable and you have sources and it's added in an appropriate place (e.g. don't add some gross racist comment at a mundane topic just because the quotation mentions that mundane topic). Anyone else who thinks I'm overlooking policy here, please do correct me. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Your wiki will be in read-only soon
editRead this message in another language • Please help translate to your language
The Wikimedia Foundation will switch the traffic between its data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster.
All traffic will switch on 25 September. The switch will start at 15:00 UTC.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. This banner will remain visible until the end of the operation.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Wednesday 25 September 2024.
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
- GitLab will be unavailable for about 90 minutes.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule.
Please share this information with your community.Can Wikiquote be licensed for use in an entertainment product?
editI was wondering if the image of Wikiquote could be used in a music video, television program or film and for what cost and who would be responsible for approving that decision. Our individual contributions are released under a creative commons license, however the website itself and the associated imagery is not. I was thinking a music video would be the most likely option as I doubt anyone wants us to be featured on a police procedural. CensoredScribe (talk) 02:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
'Wikidata item' link is moving. Find out where...
editHello everyone, a small change will soon be coming to the user-interface of your Wikimedia project. The Wikidata item sitelink currently found under the General section of the Tools sidebar menu will move into the In Other Projects section.
We would like the Wiki communities feedback so please let us know or ask questions on the Discussion page before we enable the change which can take place October 4 2024, circa 15:00 UTC+2.
More information can be found on the project page.
We welcome your feedback and questions.
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
What happened to the categories on Wikipedia
editI have to post this here instead of on the Wikipedia pump because my IP range is blocked for no reason when zi edit on my phone. What happened to the categories at the bottom of articles on the mobile version of the site? You finally added them, then they disappeared for a while, then they came back, then they disappeared for good and that was years ago. Please bring them back and keep them there, there is no reason to not have them there and it is extremely inconvenient 2603:7080:8140:8A60:BD5C:A9F2:A0A4:B28B 20:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to Participate in Wiki Loves Ramadan Community Engagement Survey
editDear all,
We are excited to announce the upcoming Wiki Loves Ramadan event, a global initiative aimed at celebrating Ramadan by enriching Wikipedia and its sister projects with content related to this significant time of year. As we plan to organize this event globally, your insights and experiences are crucial in shaping the best possible participation experience for the community.
To ensure that Wiki Loves Ramadan is engaging, inclusive, and impactful, we kindly invite you to participate in our community engagement survey. Your feedback will help us understand the needs of the community, set the event's focus, and guide our strategies for organizing this global event.
Survey link: https://forms.gle/f66MuzjcPpwzVymu5
Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts. Your input will make a difference!
Thank you for being a part of our journey to make Wiki Loves Ramadan a success.
Warm regards,
User:ZI Jony 03:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Ramadan Organizing Team