Template talk:Welcome
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Old suggestions
editAdd linkes to GtL and Sandbox
editHi Welcome. Welcome to English Wikiquote.
- To ask for help or to talk with another editor, visit our Village pump.
- To browse Wikiquote, take a look at our browsing start page.
- Before creating new articles, consult our guide. You may practice how to edit a page at Sandbox.
- To sign with a date, write four tildes (~~~~) and save.
- Be bold.
Enjoy!
- Moved to that version. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:54, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Explain userpics can go in commons
editI want to add a bullet like
- Wikiquote does not allow image upload. If you want to put pictures of yourself on your user page, upload them to Commons (see guidelines) and link to them here.
~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:58, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- The welcome message is for brand-new folks. We don't bother them with specific policies and procedures, just a few handy tips. I don't think either the image ban or the user page suggestion are appropriate, especially since neither is particularly commonplace for newbies. (I can think of several dozen don'ts and other tips that I'd sooner put in the welcome message if we wanted to expand it, not that I'm suggesting so.) Is there perhaps a better place to put this information, like the text for "Special:Upload file" and/or info on creating a user page? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- Good point, especially when probably most users who want to upload an image but can't will be savvy enough to ask on VP. I'll try to think up a better location. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 20:04, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- Rejected ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 09:24, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Suggestions
editUsing edit summaries
editWhat about adding a bullet
- Please remember to use edit summaries when editing pages.
~ MosheZadka (Talk) 09:42, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with that proposal. Cbrown1023 talk 00:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- Seconded. I would also invite you to give a look to Wikiquote talk:Welcoming Committee. --Aphaia 16:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I have added Moshe's suggestion (although with an internal link to our since-created Help:Edit summary). I also added a sub-bullet for Wikiquote:What Wikiquote is not, as this advice is sorely needed for many new users. Finally, I rephrased the signing advice to make clear it's for discussion pages, and moved up the "before editing articles" advice to put that critical information before the supplemental editing suggestions. I hope this will meet with community approval. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you Jeffq for your informative version ;) I am always in a dilemma between "informative" vs "brief and catchy" version, but I agree with you on that the former version may have misled newbies they would have been asked to sign to their contributions...
- One other concern of mine is our current message may concentrate too much technical sides or daily edits and ignore some principal things like NPOV. It could be advocated since we could imagine most of our editors may have known Wikipedia already and may have been aware some of basic principals are applied to all Wikimedia projects (NPOV, GFDL and some policies). But now we are going to reach 10,000 articles and someday we won't be able to expect such or not. So I wonder if we are better to explicitly mention we share some principles with our sister projects. Thought? --Aphaia 17:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good point. We still aren't adequately communicating our basic principles, based on how often folks create and add to articles in violation of them. It's hard to figure out how to do this succinctly. We should probably say something to the effect that we follow Wikipedia guidelines, although with less formality and a few differences (e.g., NPOV has a slightly different approach; GFDL is far more of an issue because our primary material cannot be paraphrased or summarized). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Eu InterWiki
editPlease, add the next interwiki if it is possible: eu:Txantiloi:Ongietorria. Thanks. —62.99.5.76 10:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh sorry to delay; The link to Basque welcome is now on our template. Thank you! --Aphaia 00:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
retaining this as non-automatically signed option
editI removed the most recent edit made to this template, ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>NAMESPACE}}| |{{error:not substituted|pwelcome}}<div style="display:none;">}} because as far as I could tell it made it unusable, and simply impelled people to use what could sometimes be the far more awkward {{subst:pwelcome}} . This template could result in multiple signatures to a compound message, when one did not need them or want them. ~ Kalki 19:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
How about making the words...
editHow about making the words "be bold"-bold? It may be cheesy, but it makes the user feel good.-H*bad 18:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I prefer the current one. Simple is the best in most cases. --Aphaia 19:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I have just noticed that there is sometimes a positive feedback of edits from users when you add just those small touches.--H*bad 19:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Language
editPlease add fi: Malline:Tervetuloa Wikisitaatteihin. --Watti Renew (talk) 14:16, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:57, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Name
editThe sentence "Hi, welcome to English Wikiquote" should include the username of the visitor, i.e., " "Hi, [username], and welcome to Wikiquote!" ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- I would change it myself, but I can't edit the page. Could some admin please add "{{PAGENAME}}" right after "Hi"? Thanks. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Done. This had occurred to me years ago, but I forgot about it. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- And could you delete the space between "Enjoy!" and "<noinclude>"? Thanks ~ DanielTom (talk) 15:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Declined. The space was introduced when a line break was removed in 2007.[1] It provides backwards compatibility for any transclusions of the template that may have been signed with no whitespace after the "}}", which would otherwise display no space between the final stop and the signature.
Actually, it looks like the same thing should be done for the {{welcomeip}} template. ~ Ningauble (talk) 12:19, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- I made a confusion. There was one welcome template with which you couldn't sign properly, maybe that was the one for IPs. Seems like you fixed it now. ~ DanielTom (talk) 12:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Declined. The space was introduced when a line break was removed in 2007.[1] It provides backwards compatibility for any transclusions of the template that may have been signed with no whitespace after the "}}", which would otherwise display no space between the final stop and the signature.
Grammar
editAdd "the" before "English Wikiquote" in the top. (Kalki, maybe you can take care of this?) ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 21:29, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- User:Illegitimate Barrister ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:50, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Done, @Atcovi: It has been done. – Illegitimate Barrister, 01:42, 25 February 2016 (UTC)