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Lyndall Urwick quotes
editYou have credited Urwick with quotes from at least one article written by Luther H. Gulick: "Science, values and public administration." Papers on the Science of Administration (1937) Institute of Public Administration. See Contents for the book. Noticed when copying one of your chosen quotes to a new article. Urwick wrote "Notes on the Theory of Organization", but not "Science, values and public administration". Also seems the title "The Function of Management" from the same book should be "The Function of Administration". Thanks for all you do. ELApro (talk) 19:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
How we will see unregistered users
editHi!
You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.
When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.
Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.
If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.
We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.
Thank you. /Johan (WMF)
18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
James P. Walsh
editA page that you have been involved in editing, James P. Walsh, has been listed for deletion. All contributions are appreciated, but it may not satisfy Wikiquote's criteria for inclusion, for the reasons given in the nomination for deletion (see also what Wikiquote is and is not). If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/James P. Walsh. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Thank you. User:Djm-leighpark(a)talk 05:24, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Social power
editI would like to discuss Social power with you: If I have it correct:
- Social Power has no associated Wikidata item but links to to the enWP w:Social power which is a redirect to w:Power (social and political)
- However: Power here is associated with d:Q25107 & w:Power (social and political)
I see two possible solutions. social Power is merged to Power on enWQ or a new Wikidata item for social power to support Social Power. One issue for me is my indef block to enWP which means I can't request anyone edit to do it was it would be proxy edit request on enWP. Do you have any preferences or suggestions. As you may be aware I'm on mission to minimize this set. -- User:Djm-leighpark(a)talk 11:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Djm-leighpark, it is now resolved on Wikidata and expanded a little more here. -- Mdd (talk) 13:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
@Mdd: Per [1] I'm seeing a lot of hits for different people matching "Alexander Chase". I can see yours was probably editor here: [2] but I'm unsure if if that is a notable. And I'm unsure if the "Alexander Chase" mentioned here is the one you are referring to. I'm thinking about this. ... Hmmm . -- User:Djm-leighpark(a)talk 13:54, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Deletion!?
editHi, from what I can see you may be responsible in some way for the deletion of 'my' user page. That was nearly ten years ago though, so you may not recall -or worse. However, I can't find a way to see the page now and so to engage with whatever was wrong. I still have an account here, and, having 'retired' from contributing to/being an editor of popular internet sites (e.g Wikipedia,) while I am relieved by that at least, I remember nothing about 'my page'. How someone came to post something in Russian I don't know, but I am interested. The offending Russian that was there apparently read: "You have good information on the site". I don't understand what about that required the speedy-deletion of 'my' page -I do not know or I dread to think. Anyway, I seem to have succeeded in recreating 'my' page, so perhaps you could comment there. That would be appreciated. Thank-you. LookingGlass (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- LookingGlass, while I am not Mdd, I can say that the content prior to deletion is still public as "Хорошая у вас информация на сайте." As you did not create the userpage yourself, and it was not helpful, it was deleted. This isn't unusual and in my view is a reasonable action. If you have any other questions about it, feel free to ask. --Ferien (talk) 15:39, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ferien, thanks for replying anyway. I found that content too (I translated it in my OP). I found it when I looked for my deleted page (to look at the notifications indicated in the status bar). However, now I can't find my way back to it! What was the URL you looked at? Also, how did you conclude I didn't set up a user-page for my account when I set up my account, what is the URL on which that information? Why/how have you concluded the user-page was not helpful, or is this an assumption can be found - you found it amazingly quickly? As for the deletion itself; really, why bother? Assuming the majority of an empty user-page is a template, it amounts to a handful of kilobytes, a drop in an exponentially growing ocean. FWIW, to me the deletion felt insulting, high-handed, unnecessary, and elitist; I guess the correct etiquette however is to just suck it up. LookingGlass (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- LookingGlass, the original content can be found here https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=1232674. That was the content, and as the deletion reason also suggests, the only contributor was an IP. I can also verify this as an admin. If we assume the most good faith possible here, the IP was looking to message you and accidentally went on the userpage instead of talk. But in reality, looking at deleted contributions (unfortunately, these creations are not available publicly in the log), that IP was going about editing many users' userpages, adding messages. I don't think the deletion was any of those things: userpages shouldn't be edited by others, because it could create an impression that the user whose userpage it is is saying something they are not. If you haven't created a userpage, it's assumed you don't want one, and edits to existing userpages are discouraged, because if the user wanted that, they would add it themselves. Again, if you have any more questions, feel free to let me know. --Ferien (talk) 16:11, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ferien, I really appreciate you explaining this, and the time you've put into doing so. I get it now. Thank you; and for your offer. I see your focus is "removing vandalism and spam"; maybe you are familiar with https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Fyodor_Dostoyevsky#Life_and_art#unsourced which refers to this https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote:Limits_on_quotations#General May I ask you about that, maybe on your talk page would be more appropriate? LookingGlass (talk) 18:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- LookingGlass, feel free to place it on my talk page, and I will take a look and respond there. --Ferien (talk) 19:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ferien, I really appreciate you explaining this, and the time you've put into doing so. I get it now. Thank you; and for your offer. I see your focus is "removing vandalism and spam"; maybe you are familiar with https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Fyodor_Dostoyevsky#Life_and_art#unsourced which refers to this https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote:Limits_on_quotations#General May I ask you about that, maybe on your talk page would be more appropriate? LookingGlass (talk) 18:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- LookingGlass, the original content can be found here https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=1232674. That was the content, and as the deletion reason also suggests, the only contributor was an IP. I can also verify this as an admin. If we assume the most good faith possible here, the IP was looking to message you and accidentally went on the userpage instead of talk. But in reality, looking at deleted contributions (unfortunately, these creations are not available publicly in the log), that IP was going about editing many users' userpages, adding messages. I don't think the deletion was any of those things: userpages shouldn't be edited by others, because it could create an impression that the user whose userpage it is is saying something they are not. If you haven't created a userpage, it's assumed you don't want one, and edits to existing userpages are discouraged, because if the user wanted that, they would add it themselves. Again, if you have any more questions, feel free to let me know. --Ferien (talk) 16:11, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ferien, thanks for replying anyway. I found that content too (I translated it in my OP). I found it when I looked for my deleted page (to look at the notifications indicated in the status bar). However, now I can't find my way back to it! What was the URL you looked at? Also, how did you conclude I didn't set up a user-page for my account when I set up my account, what is the URL on which that information? Why/how have you concluded the user-page was not helpful, or is this an assumption can be found - you found it amazingly quickly? As for the deletion itself; really, why bother? Assuming the majority of an empty user-page is a template, it amounts to a handful of kilobytes, a drop in an exponentially growing ocean. FWIW, to me the deletion felt insulting, high-handed, unnecessary, and elitist; I guess the correct etiquette however is to just suck it up. LookingGlass (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
For your information: Talk:Lebanon#removal of content Ottawahitech (talk) 15:22, 28 October 2023 (UTC)