Thucydides

Thucydides
In fine, I have written my work, not as an essay which is to win the applause of the moment, but as a possession for all time.

Thucydides (or Thoukydides) (c. 460 BC – c. 400 BC) was an ancient Greek historian, author of the History of the Peloponnesian War, which recounts the 5th century BC war between Sparta and Athens. This work is widely regarded a classic and represents the first work of its kind.

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History of the Peloponnesian WarEdit

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Book IEdit

  • Thucydides, an Athenian, wrote the history of the war between the Peloponnesians and the Athenians, beginning at the moment that it broke out, and believing that it would be a great war, and more worthy of relation than any that had proceeded it.
    • Book I, 1.1-[1] (opening lines...)
  • For the love of gain would reconcile the weaker to the dominion of the stronger, and the possession of capital enabled the more powerful to reduce the smaller cities to subjection.
    • Book I, 1.8-[3]
  • But as the power of Hellas grew, and the acquisition of wealth became more an objective, the revenues of the states increasing, tyrannies were established almost everywhere...
  • So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand.
    • Book I, 1.21-[3]
  • On the whole, however, the conclusions I have drawn from the proofs quoted may, I believe, safely be relied on. Assuredly they will not be disturbed either by the lays of a poet displaying the exaggeration of his craft, or by the compositions of the chroniclers that are attractive at truth's expense; the subjects they treat of being out of the reach of evidence, and time having robbed most of them of historical value by enthroning them in the region of legend.
    • Book I, 21-[1]
  • In fine, I have written my work, not as an essay which is to win the applause of the moment, but as a possession for all time.
    • Book I, 1.22-[4]
  • The growth of the power of Athens, and the alarm which this inspired in Sparta, made war inevitable.
    • Book I, 1.23-[6]
  • " concessions to adversaries only end in self reproach, and the more strictly they are avoided the greater will be the chance of security."
    • Book I, 1.34-[3]
  • Abstinence from all injustice to other first-rate powers is a greater tower of strength than anything that can be gained by the sacrifice of permanent tranquillity for an apparent temporary advantage.
    • Book I, 1.42-[3]
  • When one is deprived of one's liberty, one is right in blaming not so much the man who puts the shackles on as the one who had the power to prevent him, but did not use it.
    • Book I, 69
  • It is a common mistake in going to war to begin at the wrong end, to act first, and wait for disaster to discuss the matter.
    • Book I, 1.78-[3]
  • " war is a matter not so much of arms as of money,"
    • Book I, 1.83-[2]
  • " the freaks of chance are not determinable by calculation."
    • Book I, 1.84-[3]
  • In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.
    • Book I, 1.84-[4]
  • " speculation is carried on in safety, but, when it comes to action, fear causes failure."
    • Book I, 1.121-[5]
  • There is, however, no advantage in reflections on the past further than may be of service to the present. For the future we must provide by maintaining what the present gives us and redoubling our efforts; it is hereditary to us to win virtue as the fruit of labour, and you must not change the habit, even though you should have a slight advantage in wealth and resources; for it is not right that what was won in want should be lost in plenty.
    • Book I, 1.123-[1]
  • If you give way, you will instantly have to meet some greater demand, as having been frightened into obedience in the first instance; while a firm refusal will make them clearly understand that they must treat you more as equals.
    • Book I, 1.140-[5]
  • It must be thoroughly understood that war is a necessity, and that the more readily we accept it,the less will be the ardor of our opponents, and that out of the greatest dangers communities and individuals acquire the greatest glory.
    • Book I, 1.144-[3]
    • Variant translation: We must realize, too, that, both for cities and for individuals, it is from the greatest dangers that the greatest glory is to be won.

Book IIEdit

The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.
  • I could have wished that the reputations of many brave men were not to be imperilled in the mouth of a single individual, to stand or fall according as he spoke well or ill. For it is hard to speak properly upon a subject where it is even difficult to convince your hearers that you are speaking the truth. On the one hand, the friend who is familiar with every fact of the story may think that some point has not been set forth with that fullness which he wishes and knows it to deserve; on the other, he who is a stranger to the matter may be led by envy to suspect exaggeration if he hears anything above his own nature. For men can endure to hear others praised only so long as they can severally persuade themselves of their own ability to equal the actions recounted: when this point is passed, envy comes in and with it incredulity.
    • Book II, 2.35-[1]-[3]
  • Again, in our enterprises we present the singular spectacle of daring and deliberation, each carried to its highest point, and both united in the same persons; although usually decision is the fruit of ignorance, hesitation of reflection. But the palm of courage will surely be adjudged most justly to those, who best know the difference between hardship and pleasure and yet are never tempted to shrink from danger. In generosity we are equally singular, acquiring our friends by conferring, not by receiving, favours.
    • Book II, 2.40-[3]
  • But the prize for courage will surely be awarded most justly to those who best know the difference between hardship and pleasure and yet are never tempted to shrink from danger.
    • Book II, 2.40-[3]
  • The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.
    • Variant translations:

      But the palm of courage will surely be adjudged most justly to those, who best know the difference between hardship and pleasure and yet are never tempted to shrink from danger. [1]

      And they are most rightly reputed valiant, who though they perfectly apprehend both what is dangerous and what is easy, are never the more thereby diverted from adventuring. (translation by Thomas Hobbes [2])

    • Book II, 2.40-[3]
  • "Disdain is the privilege of those who, like us, have been assured by reflection of their superiority to their adversary. And where the chances are the same, knowledge fortifies courage by the contempt which is its consequence, its trust being placed, not in hope, which is the prop of the desperate, but in a judgment grounded upon existing resources, whose anticipations are more to be depended upon."
    • Book II, 2.62-[4]-[5]
  • Hatred also is short lived; but that which makes the splendor of the present and the glory of the future remains forever unforgotten
    • Book II, 2.64-[5]
  • " he who voluntarily confronts tremendous odds must have very great internal resources to draw upon."
    • Book II, 2.89-[6]
  • The country on the sea coast, now called Macedonia, was first acquired by Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his ancestors, originally Temenids from Argos...The whole is now called Macedonia, and at the time of the invasion of Sitalces, Perdiccas, Alexander's son, was the reigning king.
    • Book II, 99,-[3]

Book IIIEdit

  • " we know that there can never be any solid friendship between individuals, or union between communities that is worth the name, unless the parties be persuaded of each others honesty,"
    • Book III, 3.10-[2]
  • " Now the only sure basis of an alliance is for each party to be equally afraid of the other;"
    • Book III, 3.11-[2]
  • Fire signals of an attack were also raised toward Thebes, but the Plataeans in the city at once displayed a number of others, prepared beforehand for this very purpose, in order to render the enemy's signals unintelligible, and to prevent his friends from getting a true idea of what was happening and coming to his aid before their comrades who had gone out should have made good their escape and be in safety.
  • " I have often before now been convinced that a democracy is incapable of empire..."
    • Book III, 3.37-[1] (Speech of Cleon...)
  • The fate of those of their neighbours who had already rebelled and had been subdued was no lesson to them; their own prosperity could not dissuade them from affronting danger; but blindly confident in the future, and full of hopes beyond their power though not beyond their ambition, they declared war and made their decision to prefer might to right, their attack being determined not by provocation but by the moment which seemed propitious. The truth is that great good fortune coming suddenly and unexpectedly tends to make a people insolent; in most cases it is safer for mankind to have success in reason than out of reason; and it is easier for them, one may say, to stave off adversity than to preserve prosperity.
    • Book III, 3.39-[3]
  • I think the two things most opposed to good counsel are haste and passion; haste usaully goes hand in hand with folly, passion with coarseness and narrowness of mind.
    • Book III, 3.42-[1] (Speech of Diodotus...)
  • " still hope leads men to venture; and no one ever yet put himself in peril without the inward conviction that he would succeed in his design."
    • Book III, 3.45-[1]
  • " we must make up our minds to look for our protection not to legal terrors but to careful administration."
    • Book III, 3.46-[4]
  • Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question, inaptness to act on any. Frantic violence became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting, a justifiable means of self-defence. The advocate of extreme measures was always trustworthy; his opponent a man to be suspected. To succeed in a plot was to have a shrewd head, to divine a plot a still shrewder; but to try to provide against having to do either was to break up your party and to be afraid of your adversaries.
    • Book III, 3.82-[4]

Book IVEdit

  • You can now, if you choose, employ your present success to advantage, so as to keep what you have got and gain honour and reputation besides, and you can avoid the mistake of those who meet with an extraordinary piece of good fortune, and are led on by hope to grasp continually at something further, through having already succeeded without expecting it.
    • Book IV, 4.17-[4]
  • That war is an evil is a proposition so familiar to everyone that it would be tedious to develop it.
    • Book IV, 4.59-[2]
  • Let him remember that many before now have tried to chastise a wrongdoer, and failing to punish their enemy have not even saved themselves; while many who have trusted in force to gain an advantage, instead of gaining anything more, have been doomed to lose what they had. Vengeance is not necessarily successful because wrong has been done, or strength sure because it is confident; but the incalculable element in the future exercises the widest influence, and is the most treacherous, and yet in fact the most useful of all things, as it frightens us all equally, and thus makes us consider before attacking each other.
    • Book IV, 4.62-[3]-[4]
  • We must march against the enemy, and teach him that he must go and get what he wants by attacking someone who will not resist him, but that men whose glory it is to be always ready to give battle for the liberty of their own country, and never unjustly to enslave that of others, will not let him go without a struggle.
    • Book IV, 4.92-[7]
  • They stood where they stood by the power of the sword.
    • Book IV, 4.98-[7]
  • " and their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound prediction; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not desire."
    • Book IV, 4.108-[4]
  • " when night came on, the Macedonians and the barbarian crowd suddenly took fright in one of those mysterious panics to which great armies are liable,"
    • Book IV, 4.125-[1]

Book VEdit

Hoplite
"the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."
  • The Spartans meanwhile, man to man, and with their war songs in the ranks, exhorted each brave comrade to remember what he had learned before; well aware that the long training of action was of more use for saving lives than any brief verbal exhortation, though ever so well delivered.
    • Book V, 5.69-[2]
  • "We hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."
    • A summary of Athenian statements to the Melians, Book V, 5.89-[1]
  • "Hope, danger's comforter,"
    • Book V, 5.103-[1]
  • Of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessary law of their nature they rule wherever they can.
    • Book V, 5.105-[2]
  • "here we bless your simplicity but do not envy your folly."
    • Book V, 5.105-[3]
  • And it is certain that those who do not yield to their equals, who keep terms with their superiors, and are moderate towards their inferiors, on the whole succeed best.
    • Book V, 5.111-[4]

Book VIEdit

  • Men do not rest content with parrying the attacks of a superior, but often strike the first blow to prevent the attack being made.
    • Book VI, 6.18-[2]
  • I think, therefore, that we ought to take great numbers of hoplites, both from Athens and from our allies, and not merely from our subjects, but also any we may be able to get for love or money in the Peloponnesus, and great numbers also of archers and slingers, to oppose the Sicilian horse.
    • Book VI, 6.22-[1]
  • We must not disguise from ourselves that we go to found a city among strangers and enemies, and he who undertakes such an enterprise should be prepared to become master of the country the first day he lands, or failing in this find everything hostile to him.
    • Book VI, 6.23-[2]
  • Contempt for an assailant is best shown by bravery in action.
    • Book VI, 6.34-[9]
  • As for democracy, the men of sense among us knew what it was, and I perhaps as well as any, as I have more cause to complain of it; but there is nothing new to be said of a patent absurdity-meanwhile we did not think it safe to alter it under the pressure of your hostility.
    • Book VI, 6.89-[6]

Book VIIEdit

  • They have discovered that the length of time we have now been in commission has rotted our ships and wasted our crews, and that with the completeness of our crews and the soundness of the pristine efficiency of our navy has departed. For it is impossible for us to haul our ships ashore and dry them out because the enemy's vessels being as many or more than our own, we are constantly anticipating an attack.
    • Book VII, 7.12-[3]-[4]
  • But what most oppressed them was that they had two wars at once, and has thus reached a pitch of frenzy which no one would have believed possible if he had heard of it before it had come to pass.
    • Book VII, 7.28-[3]
  • " the Thracian people, like the bloodiest of the barbarians, being ever most murderous when it has nothing to fear."
    • Book VII, 7.29-[4]
  • By day certainly the combatants have a clearer notion, though even then by no means of all that takes place, no one knowing much of anything that does not does not go on in his own immediate neighborhood; but in a night engagement ( and this was the only one that occurred between great armies during the war) how could anyone know anything for certain?
    • Book VII, 7.44-[1]
  • Right or community of blood was not the bond of union between them, so much as interest or compulsion as the case may be.
    • Book VII, 7.57-[1]
  • When men are once checked in what they consider their special excellence, their whole opinion of themselves suffers more than if they had not at first believed in their superiority, the unexpected shock to their pride causing them to give way more than their real strength warrants; and that is probably now the case with the Athenians.
    • Book VII, 7.66-[3]
  • And the rarest dangers are those in which failure brings little loss and success the greatest advantage.
    • Book VII, 7.68-[3]
  • " their swaying bodies reflected the agitation of their minds, and they suffered the worst agony of all, ever just within the reach of safety or just on the point of destruction."
  • The dead lay unburied, and each man as he recognized a friend among them shuddered with grief and horror; while the living whom they were leaving behind, wounded or sick, were to the living far more shocking than the dead, and more to be pitied than those who had perished.
    • Book VII, 7.75-[3]

Book VIIIEdit

  • The wide difference between the two characters, the slowness and want of energy of the Spartans as contrasted with the dash and enterprise of their opponents, proved of the greatest service, especially to a maritime empire like Athens. Indeed this was shown by the Syracusans, who were most like the Athenians in character, and also most successful in combating them.
    • Book VIII, 8.96-[5]


MisattributedEdit

  • A nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its laws made by cowards and its wars fought by fools.
    • Widely attributed to Thucydides in books and online. In fact misquoted from Sir William Francis Butler, Charles George Gordon (1889), p. 85, where it reads: "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." [3]

ReferencesEdit

  • The Landmark Thucydides, Edited by Robert B. Strassler, Richard Crawley translation, Annotated, Indexed and Illustrated, A Touchstone Book, New York, NY, 1996 ISBN 0-684-82815-4

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