Talk:Pakistan

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what means "Pakistan is the most allied ally in Asia."

• Who knows? That's why it's a great quote! BD2412 T 17:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

this is how this page suold be arranged

i think the quotes shoul be like this :

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The following quotes fail to meet notability standards. See WQ:Wikiquote. --MonstrumVenandi (talk) 23:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

• "...Ministry of Foreign Affairs with its statement in response to the EU resolution: “Pakistan is a parliamentary democracy with a vibrant civil society, free media and independent judiciary, which remains fully committed to the promotion and protection of human rights for all its citizens without discrimination.” Whoever wrote this has a bright career ahead of them in stand up comedy. Have you heard of Ahmadis? You do not even let them vote or profess and propagate their faith, constitutional rights under the constitution you are sworn to protect. They are arrested for saying Salam and reading the Quran. Their “places of worship” are routinely desecrated and ransacked often by police officials. Christians are routinely charged with blasphemy and attacked by the mobs. Hindu girls are abducted and forcibly converted to Islam. So where is this Pakistan you speak of because we certainly don’t live in it. Have some shame at long last. This is the holy month of Ramazan. You should at least refrain from lying in this month, if you cannot help yourselves year round. ..."
  • Yasser Latif Hamdani, "Pakistan's moral compass". Daily Times. 2 May 2021

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Pakistan has a history of military support for different factions within Afghanistan, extending at least as far back as the early 1970s. During the 1980s, Pakistan, which was host to more than two million Afghan refugees, was the most significant front-line state serving as a secure base for the mujahidin fighting against the Soviet intervention. Pakistan also served, in the 1980s, as a U.S. stalking horse: the U.S., through the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), granted Pakistan wide discretion in channeling some U.S.$2-3 billion worth of covert assistance to the mujahidin, training over 80,000 of them. Even after the withdrawal of Soviet troops in 1989, serving and former Pakistani military officers continued to provide training and advisory services in training camps within Afghanistan and eventually to Taliban forces in combat. ~ Human Rights Watch

• Most of our [British] Muslim population is Pakistani. If that population was Indonesian or Tunisian the situation would not be the same. Pakistan has to export a lot of uneducated people, many of whom have become infected with the most barbaric reactionary ideas.
  • Christopher Hitchens, "FANATICS OF LONDON", "Vanity Fair" -- trimmed Ficaia (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• Pakistan has a history of military support for different factions within Afghanistan, extending at least as far back as the early 1970s. During the 1980s, Pakistan, which was host to more than two million Afghan refugees, was the most significant front-line state serving as a secure base for the mujahidin fighting against the Soviet intervention. Pakistan also served, in the 1980s, as a U.S. stalking horse: the U.S., through the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), granted Pakistan wide discretion in channeling some U.S.$2-3 billion worth of covert assistance to the mujahidin, training over 80,000 of them. Even after the withdrawal of Soviet troops in 1989, serving and former Pakistani military officers continued to provide training and advisory services in training camps within Afghanistan and eventually to Taliban forces in combat.
  • Human Rights Watch, "Pakistan's support of the taliban", 2000.

• It appears to be the dawn of a new vision pointing to a new destiny symbolized by a new name, Pakistan. The Muslims appear to have started a new worship of a new destiny for the first time. But this is really not so. The worship is new because the sun of their new destiny which was so far hidden in the clouds has only now made its appearance in full glow. The magnetism of this new destiny cannot but draw the Muslims towards it.
  • B.R. Ambedkar, Thoughts on Pakistan

• [Pakistan is] the most allied ally in Asia.
  • Ayub Khan, as quoted by "Pakistan: the Most Allied Ally in Asia" by Robert Nolan, in Foreign Policy Association Newsletter (2005)

• In the present times of grave crisis we need dissident intellectuals who can challenge the establishment... Pakistan did not develop any tradition of dissident intellectual activity.
  • Mubarak Ali, In an interview published in The Times of India, New Delhi, 29 October 1997. Quoted from Lal, K. S. (1999). Theory and practice of Muslim state in India. New Delhi: Aditya Prakashan. Chapter 6

• This is not a letter on Pakistan. If it were, I could have written a small book entitled "Glimpses of Pakistan's history". Time does not permit it. The nation is gripped in her worst crisis, standing in the middle of the road between survival and disintegration. Since the birth of Pakistan, crisis has followed crisis in rapid escalation. Millions of lives were sacrificed to create this country. Pakistan is said to be the dream of Mohammad Iqbal and the creation of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the Quaid-e-Azam. Was anything wrong with the dream or with the one who made the dream come true? Opinions have differed and continue to differ. The next few years will most probably decide the issue, perhaps once and for all, and not without bloodshed. This process is not inevitable but the present policies of the ruling junta are driving this country towards a sad inevitability
  • Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, letter to his daughter (1978), p. 37 -- trimmed Ficaia (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• Pakistan is not a unified country. In large parts of the country, the state is regarded as a Punjabi state, not their (the people's) state.
  • Noam Chomsky, "Exclusive interview with Noam Chomsky on Pakistan elections", Dawn, May 7, 2013.

• There are deep problems in Pakistan - the economy is turning around, but not very fast; violence, sectarian violence, continues.
  • Stephen Cohen Daylife

• The formation of Pakistan was necessary so that it may be used as a base for conquering the rest of India to Islam.
  • F.K. Durrani attributed in : Writings of Sri Purushottam Singh Yog Volume-9: THE PARTITION CONSPIRACY AND , p. 349 [1]

• [The Afghan refugees] believed in Pakistan’s forefathers who had pledged to protect and offer sanctuary for Muslims. The Afghans shared more than history and tradition with people in Pakistan. Today, Pakistan has left them orphans.
  • Yusuf Durrani (pseudonym), "Is Pakistan Committing a Genocidal Act on Afghan Refugees?", Bitter Winter (November 25, 2023)

• While many books explore the Iranian Revolution, few look at how it rippled out, how the Arab and Sunni world reacted and interacted with the momentous event. All the way to Pakistan, the ripples of the rivalry reengineered vibrant, pluralistic countries and unleashed sectarian identities and killings that had never defined us in the past. While Pakistan is geographically located on the Indian subcontinent, its modern history is closely linked to the trends that unfolded in the Middle East, and the country features prominently in this narrative. Across this Greater Middle East, the rise of militancy and the rise of cultural intolerance happened in parallel and often fed into each other.
  • Kim Ghattas, Black Wave: Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Forty-Year Rivalry That Unraveled Culture, Religion, and Collective Memory in the Middle East (2020)

• What is peculiar to Pakistan, …as a few independent voices have bravely noted, is that art and culture are not free, no matter how high is their quality and [no matter] how respectful they are of Islam (as the film [Zindagi Tamasha] is). Groups such as Tehreek-e-Labbaik are officially condemned, yet in fact they keep an entire country hostage, and the government is too weak to resist them.
  • Massimo Introvigne, “Zindagi Tamasha”: Pakistan Surrenders to Fundamentalists, Bans Award-Winning Film, Bitter Winter (September 18, 2023)

• I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated Northwest Indian Muslim state appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of Northwest India.
  • Muhammad Iqbal, Sir Muhammad Iqbal’s 1930 Presidential Address to the 25th Session of the All-India Muslim League, Allahabad, 29 December 1930 (from University of Columbia website)

• The constitution of Pakistan has yet to be framed by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly. I do not know what the ultimate shape of this constitution is going to be, but I am sure that it will be of a democratic type, embodying the essential principle of Islam. Today, they are as applicable in actual life as they were 1,300 years ago. Islam and its idealism have taught us democracy. It has taught equality of man, justice and fairplay to everybody. We are the inheritors of these glorious traditions and are fully alive to our responsibilities and obligations as framers of the future constitution of Pakistan. In any case Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic State to be ruled by priests with a divine mission. We have many non-Muslims — Hindus, Christians, and Parsis — but they are all Pakistanis. They will enjoy the same rights and privileges as any other citizens and will play their rightful part in the affairs of Pakistan.
  • Muhammad Ali Jinnah, broadcast to the people of the United States of America on Pakistan (February 1948), as quoted in "Jinnah dreamt of a secular Pakistan" in New Religion (11 February 2013) -- trimmed Ficaia (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• "We are starting the state with no discrimination ... we should keep that in front of us as our ideal, and you will find that in course of time Hindus will cease to be Hindus and Muslims will cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as the citizens of the nation."
  • Muhammad Ali Jinnah, on the day he was elected president of the Pakistan Constituent Assembly, Jinnah in a moving speech, quoted in M. J. Akbar, India: The Siege Within (Harmondsworth, England: Penguin, 1985) p 34. As quoted from Ibn, W. (2004). Leaving Islam: Apostates speak out. Amherst, NY: Prometheus Books.

• We have proclaimed that if the Government of Pakistan would work for our people and our country the Khudai Khidmatgars would be with them. I repeat that I am not for the destruction of Pakistan. In destruction lies no good. Neither Hindus nor Muslims, nor the Frontier, not Punjab, Bengal or Sindh stands to gain from it. There is advantage only in construction. I want to tell you categorically I will not support anybody in destruction. If any constructive programme is before you, if you want to do something constructive for our people, not in theory, but in practice, I declare before this House that I and my people are at your service?
  • Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan (February 1948) quoted in Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan: A True Servant of Humanity by Girdhari Lal Puri pp -188 ? 190

• The state withered. But faith didn’t. Failure only led back to the faith. The state had been founded as a homeland for Muslims. If the state failed, it wasn’t because the dream was flawed, or the faith flawed; it could only be because men had failed the faith. A purer and purer faith began to be called for. And in that quest for the Islamic absolute—the society of believers, where every action was instinct with worship—men lost sight of the political origins of their state. They forgot the secular ambitions of Mr. Jinnah, the state’s political founder, who (less philosophical than Iqbal) wanted only a state where Muslims wouldn’t be swamped by non-Muslims. Even Iqbal was laid aside. Extraordinary claims began to be made for Pakistan: it was founded as the land of the pure; it was to be the first truly Islamic state since the days of the Prophet and his close companions.
  • Naipaul, V.S. - Among the Believers (Vintage, 1982) -- trimmed Ficaia (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• Pakistan, like most of South Asian culture, was historically non-dogmatic. That comes from the way in which mysticism became entrenched across the Indian subcontinent.
  • Maajid Nawaz and Tom Bromley, Radical: My Journey out of Islamist Extremism (2016), Connecticut: Rowman & Littlefield, p. 6

• But wasn't this what Pakistan was supposed to be? After all, it came into being on the basis of the two-nation theory, that Hindus and Muslims were two separate states, that Hindus and Muslims could not live together. That was Pakistan's raison d'être. Supposing by some black magic they converted to another way of thinking... Pakistan would collapse. Therefore one of the planks of Pakistani statecraft was to keep reminding its people and the world at large of that mantra of survival: we are because we cannot live with them.
  • Saeed Naqvi, Reflections of an Indian Muslim, quoted from Elst, Koenraad (2014). Decolonizing the Hindu mind: Ideological development of Hindu revivalism. New Delhi: Rupa. p. 350

• What's happened recently in Pakistan, India and Kuwait only goes to show that it's futile to imitate Western democracy. They've ended up exactly where they started.
  • Muhammad Reza Pahlavi, as quoted in Alam, Asadollah (1991), The Shah and I, I. B. Tauris, page 506

• I’ve also seen both sexes mistreat their servants, servants' children, and scream abuses at poor people in the markets. In Pakistan, abuse is not as openly discussed as it is in the West. Abuse seems to be more acceptable as long as one maintains a luxury lifestyle.
  • Cynthia D. Ritchie attributed in Who let the dogs out?, Pakistan Today . Com 2020 June, 21.

• The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies and deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!
  • Donald Trump, CNN: Trump's first 2018 tweet: Pakistan has 'given us nothing but lies & deceit' [2], The Independent [3] --- trimmed Ficaia (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• This name-Pakistan-means literally ‘the Land of the Pure’ or of Purity. This implies clearly that Hindus and all that belongs to them credally and materially is impure, defiled and unholy. In a communally-charged atmosphere to have broadcast such an offensive name and concept among the Muslims was to extend an open invitation to racial and communal arrogance, contempt of others, challenges and counter-challenges.
  • Talib, S. G. S. (1950). Muslim League Attack on Sikhs and Hindus in the Punjab, 1947. Amritshar: Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee. [4] [5] [6] [7]

• Just as Medina had provided a base for the eventual victory of Islam in Arabia, Pakistan would pave the way for the triumphal return of Islam as the ruling power over the entire subcontinent. The whole of Hindustan would thus be turned into Pakistan just as the Prophet himself had turned all of Arabia into Pakistan.
  • Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, in 1946, as attributed and quoted in Creating a New Medina, Dhulipala and quoted from J Sai Deepak - India that is Bharat_ Coloniality, Civilisation, Constitution-_ Bloomsbury India (2021)

• (The achievement of Pakistan) was the first successful step in this 20th century to realise their 1200-year old dream of complete subjugation of this country.
  • Arnold Toynbee, attributed in : Writings of Sri Purushottam Singh Yog Volume-9: THE PARTITION CONSPIRACY AND , p. 349 [8]

• Pakistan is like Israel, an ideological state. Take out Judaism from Israel and it will collapse like a house of cards. Take Islam out of Pakistan and make it a secular state; it would collapse. For the past four years we have been trying to bring Islamic values to this country'.
  • General Zia-ul-Haq (1916-89), Chief Martial Law Administrator, Pakistan, 1981. quoted from Tariq Ali - The Clash of Fundamentalisms_ Crusades, Jihads and Modernity-Verso (2002)

I have improved some of the quotes, there were some quotable quotes such as from Ambedkars'book which is a very important early work on Pakistan (another quote from the book could be chosen), or quotable quotes from important persons like Zia and others. --ᘙ (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)