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WelcomeEdit

Hi, welcome to English Wikiquote.

Enjoy! -- Cirt (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your work...Edit

Just a brief note of thanks on your work here in recent weeks. I am just about to leave, but noticed you had created a page for Isadora Duncan — and I was quite surprised to realize that one didn't already exist. Thanks for all the additions. ~ Kalki··☳☶ 21:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Image disputes and ThanksEdit

As a person who has done significant work lately, and registered significant opinions on developing and protecting other people's work and rights in disputes on the Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Josette Sheeran page, I am asking you to consider registering an honest opinion on the matters under consideration at "Liberal use of images". In the eight years of my work here I have encountered only a relatively few people intensely hostile to the use of images generally, and only a very few who seem extremely hostile to my particular uses of them. But I do not wish you to get involved in any way which you might find uncomfortable, and if you have no interest in stating your opinions for any reasons, I can accept that. As a devout Absurdist with a great respect for many forms of human cultural interests, I thank your for all the diligence you have exhibited in creating and developing pages in recent months. ~ Kalki·· 13:52, 1 February 2012 (UTC) + tweaks

re. e-mailEdit

It was really just a general observation. ~ Ningauble 21:27, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

FYIEdit

Please see Wikiquote:Village_pump#More_eyes_helpful_at_deletion_discussion. I believe you've talked about issues of censorship before, you may feel that this applies here. Thanks for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Doon SchoolEdit

Hi Collingwood, Thanks for your message. I have just started the doon school page and i know it is in its infantile stage but there are lots of quotations i'll be putting up so removing the deletion banner for now. It's just been a day, after all. Thanks :) Merlaysamuel (talk) 06:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

OlorunEdit

Could you kindly check this out. Thanks. Otelemuyen (talk) 14:01, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, you are now an administrator!Edit

Welcome to the mop and bucket brigade. I'm sure you are familiar with the rights and responsibilities set forth at Wikiquote:Administrators, so enjoy your new set of buttons! BD2412 T 12:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks for volunteering to help take the trash out. ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Bravo for adminship! I expanded it, and will do so for some time... :) Thanks anyway! --WhiteWriter (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Usurp request on WPEdit

To confirm that I am Collingwoodx making a usurp request.--Collingwood (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate use of ROLLBACK TOOLEdit

  • THIS is highly inappropriate use of the ROLLBACK tool. The ROLLBACK tool is only used to revert vandalism. Not for any other purpose. Please, do not do this again. Thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
    • I do not understand. The policy says no such thing. It says: "Administrators should never use this quiet mode to hide reversion for their own personal purposes." Clearly, I have not done so. If there is another applicable policy on WQ, please supply a link.--Collingwood (talk) 19:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
      • I actually agree that I don't see that this action was an incorrect use of the rollback feature. I do think that perhaps a little dialogue might have helped - or at least a bit of explanation on why you felt the change was needed (I don't disagree with the reversion, but explaining it might have helped). The underlying disagreement is one that I do not believe is settled - having quotes as captions is accepted practice here for quite a long time, and I do not believe the removal of them for NPOV reasons is appropriate without further discussion and consensus on it. Just my two cents. ~ UDScott (talk) 20:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
        • Thanks for that very helpful comment. I'm still learning!--Collingwood (talk) 22:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
          • In the interest of being polite:
          1. Although Collingwood did comment on the talk page when reverting,[1] it is generally a good idea to reserve the "rollback" button for edits that are so clearly harmful or useless that they do not deserve comment, because the automatic edit summary is rather stark.
          2. Although Cirt may have had reason to emphasize part of this edit summary, it is a good idea to exercise restraint with all-caps because it gives the impression of shouting.
          Wikipedia has some highly developed guidance about these issues, but it is not really necessary if we just try to be sensitive to how these things might be received. ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
        • Thanks. As I say, I'm still learning.--Collingwood (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment: I agree I should not have used CAPS in the edit summary, except for the word "ROLLBACK" which is often referred to in CAPS. But I do strongly think that the ROLLBACK tool should not have been used in the way Collingwood (talk · contributions) used it, to revert without any use of an edit summary whatsoever, in the manner which is most commonly reserved only for obvious vandalism. -- Cirt (talk) 14:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Poetlister socksEdit

Sorry, I thought that it would be appropriate to do that because it was not clearly indicated on the user pages that the users were blocked. Thought it was simply default practise to tag blocked users with that template, I understand now that I am wrong. I copied notes from edit summaries. --Tryst (talk) 21:45, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your inappropriate use of the ROLLBACK tool, againEdit

Please stop your inappropriate use of the ROLLBACK tool, again. This tool is only intended for simple vandalism. It is used when it is clear and unambiguous to all parties that the rollback was for reverting vandalism, and that the vandalism was so bad that no edit summary to explain was needed. Please stop your inappropriate behavior. thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 17:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I am inclined to agree that it is courteous to use Rollback in moderation, but I wouldn't have a cow about "your inappropriate use of the ROLLBACK tool". Although the Rollback guideline at Wikipedia expresses a view worth taking into consideration, it is not policy here. Nonobservance of guidelines from another wiki is not inherently inappropriate conduct here.

According to the MediaWiki software manual, the intended purpose of the tool is simply to expedite reversion,[2] There is helpful advice on the global Meta site at Help:Reverting#Rollback: "if you use the rollback feature other than for vandalism ... it is courteous to leave an explanation on the article's talk page or on the talk page of the user, whose edit(s) you have reverted." This is exactly what Collingwood did.

I encourage Collingwood to give more thought to how some editors are sensitive about the tool's use.
I encourage Cirt to consider a less demanding tone for helping our newest administrator become acclimated.
~ Ningauble (talk) 19:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Just to say, I'm not particularly fussed about the use of rollback in this way. The only problem I guess is that it marked the edits as minor when they weren't, but as I was notified, this wasn't an issue. --Tryst (talk) 19:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

To avoid confusion it's best practice to observe the Rollback guideline at Wikipedia, to do else and revert another user with no edit summary explanation is inappropriate. -- Cirt (talk) 01:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you all for these helpful comments. I am doing my best to observe all of the policies on this site, including of course WQ:CIV, and no doubt everyone else is doing their best too. Obviously, when I edit WP I do my best to observe all of the policies on that site.--Collingwood (talk) 19:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Night WatchEdit

Hi. You declined my proposed deletion of this article: I've started a discussion concerning it at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Night Watch. Cheers. --User:Tryst 21:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The Wiki PrayerEdit

The Wiki Prayer has been listed at Votes for deletion. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/The Wiki Prayer. Thank you. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Why do you deleted "Basque proverbs"?Edit

Hi, I would like to know why you deleted the article Basque proverbs that I created some days ago, because I spend a lot of my time and work finding and writing basque proverbs and sentences and was similar article than other articles of Wikiquote like irish proverbs, welsh proverbs, Scottish Gaelic proverbs, english proverbs, french proverbs, spanish proverbs... Bye.
Euskaldunaa (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. But all those basque proverbs are from the external links, you can enter in those external links and see that I´m saying the true. Bye.
Euskaldunaa (talk) 0:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi, again. I´ve provided references to each basque proverb. If you need more references ask me before delete the article, please, because I´m basque and I´m interesting to write an article on basque proverbs and their english translation in the Wikiquote. Greetings.
Euskaldunaa (talk) 0:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Greeting from the Basque Country.
Euskalduna, 8:36, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

AbortionEdit

When you reverted, you also deleted several new quotations. Please try again without deleting the new quotations.

RE:Seven PsychopathsEdit

Is the article actually going to be deleted simply because the film has yet to be released? I don't mean to insult Wiki rules and regulations, but that doesn't make any sense to me. I have given, in detail, why I disagree with the article being deleted on the article's talk page. However, every time I try to edit on Wikipedia I end up getting caught up in some rule, and it's just a bit annoying. I won't remove the delete tag, as I cannot see how to improve the article aside from, what? Adding more quotes? I followed the guidelines to the letter. The only thing I can think of the article is missing is a link to RottenTomatoes.

As you can probably tell, I'm quite confused. I disagree with the deletion, so unless you change your mind I would appreciate an explanation.

Dillinger2407 (talk) 20:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, and sorry for the late reply. Yes, all of the quotes were from the sample trailer.
Dillinger2407 (talk) 23:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Citing sourcesEdit

Maybe you can help me out. I'm not sure how best to add citations to Wikiquote articles, as the help pages mostly seem to refer to Wikipedia. LtPowers (talk) 19:57, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

ProdEdit

Hi there, I put up a few pages for deletion and you said they should be handled as a PROD, what is a PROD please ? - Yorkshiresoul (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thank you for adding the additional categories to We Are Legion, much appreciated! Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 22:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Reverting instead of discussingEdit

In the future, do not revert instead of discussing, as you did here and here. After your action I had waited an additional two days. I admit I was mistaken and thought the "prod" time was 5 days, not 7. However in the future you must take the small bit of time to at least attempt good faith discussion over this, instead of reverting without discussion. Thank you for working in the future to improve your troubling inappropriate behavior patterns — it is most appreciated. :) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:47, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

What was done was indubitably a violation of WQ procedures, which are clearly laid out on the PROD page. The first time, I took it as inadvertent so corrected it silently. The second time, I realised that firmer action was needed. Thank you.--Collingwood (talk) 11:22, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The next time, you better seek out discussion, first. And next time if you do seek out discussion it is likely you won't have to take action as that person would gladly rather self-revert pending more polite discussions. Thank you for working to improve your inappropriate behavior in the future. -- Cirt (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
As I stated on Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard, I'm not sure why some simple reversions (correcting errors fully within established guidelines) are being termed "troubling inappropriate behavior patterns." Of course more discussion is always nice, but in the end, the reversions were correct. ~ UDScott (talk) 17:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I agree it is time to move on. I have acknowledged in the future I will do my best to remember to wait the full seven (7) days before deleting any PRODs. I hope that similarly, others will do their best in the future to engage in polite discussion before reverting admin actions. When asked to do so, I will gladly self-revert any admin action pending polite discussion about the issue. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 19:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Amiable outreachEdit

Amiable outreach. :)

Collingwood, I realize I've let myself get involved in an escalation of things lately, and I'm very sorry about that. I'd like to move forward with you to address issues in the future in a more lighthearted and friendly manner. I do value your input and advice, and I'd really love for both of us to work collaboratively together in the future where we both learn from each other. Once again, my apologies, -- Cirt (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Cirt, thank you very much. Obviously, you are very experienced in WMF and I'm sure that I can learn a lot from you. Face-smile.svg.--Collingwood (talk) 20:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll strive to learn a lot from you too. -- Cirt (talk) 22:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/MediaWikiEdit

Perhaps you could read over the twenty (20) sourced quotes I've added to the page to improve it, and reassess your position to see if at least a few of them in your opinion are quotable enough to save the page from deletion? :)

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding this comment, can you please take another look? I've added a some more sourced quotes, I've moved some of the quotes you read previously to the talk page, and retained only the most interesting quotes on the main page itself. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting positively about my sourcing efforts to WikiquoteEdit

Collingwood, thank you for commenting positively at Talk:OT VIII about my sourcing efforts to Wikiquote and the amount of research and referencing efforts I've put in there. I really appreciate that. Though of course we may differ on subjective opinion about what "quotable" means, it's refreshing we can both agree on appreciating a standard of level of sourcing and the effort that goes into referencing and research. Once again, I really appreciate it. A lot. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Liam HemsworthEdit

I've recently done a bit of quality improvement and sourcing effort at this page, perhaps you could reevaluate your position at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Liam Hemsworth? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind words here about my research efforts, most appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

ReplyEdit

You're welcome, no worries, maybe we need some checkusers more active on this project! -- Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks (&)Edit

Collingwood - thank you for the helpul info you posted to my Talk page. Appreciate it much. CononOfSamos (talk) 16:54, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Collingwood - if you have the time, could I ask you to take a quick look at the last External link I added to the Calvin Coolidge page? I essentially used a template that I borrowed from the analogous page over at Wikipedia: seems to be working fine, I'm just unclear if there are potential problems in such an approach. If a different approach is preferable, I would be happy to use such, but not sure where to find appropriate Help page. Thanks again -- CononOfSamos (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very muchEdit

Thanks very much for your recent helpful edits to the new page I've created, Lawrence Wright. Much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 19:05, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

Thanks for your adittions to the William Luther Pierce article i created. Sethane (talk) 22:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Ron KaufmanEdit

Hi Collingwood, thanks for your comments on Ron_Kaufman/Temp. I've taken out quite a few quotes now. Can you tell me if the remaining quotes meet your expectations for a WikiQuotes article? Forgive me, I've been editing Wikipedia for awhile but this is my first WikiQuotes article. Thanks, HtownCat (talk) 23:45, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the WelcomeEdit

Thanks for the welcome! Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 03:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting my changeEdit

I was just trying to make the article less insulting to intelligent readers. But if wiki doesn't like that, cool with me.

Confidential mail sent through wikipedia interfaceEdit

You've got (confidential) email. - Fanthrillers (talk) 00:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Also, wikipedia has renamed my other account so wikiquote can proceed with the related rename operation at its earliest convenience. Again, many thanks. - Fanthrillers (talk) 21:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Tag line used by college kidsEdit

I would have speedy deleted this sort of thing as "not sufficiently notable", with a {{fame}} warning to the contributor. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. In retrospect, I agree, but it will stil be deleted soon enough.--Collingwood (talk) 20:40, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Despicable Me: Minion MayhemEdit

I promise to not get this page (Despicable Me: Minion Mayhem) never ever get deleted again. I've always dreamed of going there!