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Basic incomeEdit

Hi Peter! I just noticed that a while ago you created a page for basic income quotes -- nice work!

I've been drafting a page like that but I guess by starting out too ambitious I ended up letting that work stale as other stuff took priority. I thought I'd let you know about it, in case you want to integrate some of that info into the live page :)

Cheers, Waldir (talk) 09:30, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Brief noteEdit

I am only briefly in, before I have to attend to other very extensive matters in coming days. I wish to note that have much appreciated and welcomed many of your additions, but been appalled at some of your revisions and reductions of links, such as I have noted in some of your recent edits. Wiki-links provide means of access to other pages which are very important to any wiki, and I am almost always inclined to oppose the reduction of these from the pages as reducing the opportunities of people to link directly to other ranges of ideas and quotes. There are other matters of approval or disapproval I might attend to in coming days, but I am not likely to have time to discuss matters within the next day or so. I have to attend to a few other things now, and will likely soon be off of the internet for at least some hours. So it goes Blessings. ~ Kalki·· 00:10, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Dear Kalki, I am sorry to have upset you by removing links. I think that we may disagree about the criteria that decide whether a link is relevant, and it might be valuable to discuss the principles we use. The principle I use is this:

A link is relevant if the reader might reasonably be supposed to be prompted by the quotation to seek information from the linked article.

So, for example, linking to [[Being]] for an ordinary use of the word "be" would be irrelevant, and therefore reasonable to delete.

Consider this example:

* The more one [[suffers]], the more, I [[believe]], has one a [[sense]] for the [[Comedy|comic]].
** [[Kierkegaard]]

I argue that the link to [[belief]] here is no more relevant than linking to [[Being]] for every use of the word "is."

Specific cases will fall somewhere on a spectrum of relevance, which will inevitably be subjective, but, frankly, one gets the impression that the purpose of some of these links is more to publicize certain pet projects than to provide relevant resources for the reader.

I am confident that we can work out our disagreement on this matter. Remember that you persuaded me from a fan of chronological ordering to a fan of alphabetical ordering (thank you). I am open to being persuaded/refuted in this case as well. Best regards, ~ Peter1c (talk) 02:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Please stop removing CLEARLY relevant imagesEdit

I just restored the image File:LuMaxArt Human Family with World Religions.png to illustrate a quote on the Cat Stevens page, and might restore the image on other pages from which you have been removing it, if I have time enough to do so. You might perhaps think I created that image merely because I made a PNG version of a pre-existing JPG of it which was at the WIkimedia Commons, but whether this be the case or not, I have for some time been rather angered and tempering my anger at the asinine commentary that has gone on among a FEW people about CONTROLLING the options of others in presenting ideas, information and images on this wiki, because I have recognized that I have been far too busy with far too many things to get into extensive debates on such matter with people I perceive to be acting not only irrationally but immorally. I will probably address the issue further in a few days, but do not have time now, as I just checked in here very briefly, and must be leaving again within the next 20 minutes at the latest. ~ Kalki·· 12:21, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Dear Kalki: Thank you for your message. I will stop removing the images while we wait for your input, but we have a consensus on the Village Pump to remove these sorts of images, which are (1) not from a notable source and (2) not NPOV. I understand that you are busy, but this is an issue that the community needs to resolve. Your fellow editors are also awaiting your response to the issue of Linking everyday terms. You have been a supporter of Open discussion in the past. Why not on these latest issues? ~ Peter1c (talk) 12:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

I did have time to revert a bit more of your recent deletions of clearly relevant images, and noticed that it was NOT the png version of the image but the jpg version you had been removing, among others, and simply wish to note that mistake on my part, in my earlier comments. I just had an edit conflict here, as I began to post a further response, but I don’t have time to respond further at this time. I will try to address this and other issues within the next few days, but remain EXTREMELY busy, and MUST be leaving NOW. ~ Kalki·· 12:43, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Anna SuiEdit

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the feedback, think I followed the template for the actual quotations, the reference tags were for the introductory sentence only in case anyone needed to verify. Happy to remove. MargaritaPoppa (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi MargaritaPoppa. Thanks for your message. As long as the info is sourced on the linked wikipedia page, there's no need to reference the source on the wikiquote page.

It also looks the the {{cite}} template doesn't work very well, since it is putting a period at the beginning of your citations for no apparent reason. I've never used it, so I can't offer suggestions how to coax it to do what you want.

Best regards, Peter1c (talk) 12:17, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Peter,
Will try and look at using just the text instead of the cite template, see what you mean by the . Thanks again! MargaritaPoppa (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

"Michael Scott Gallegos" reviewEdit

If you have a few minutes to look at Michael Scott Gallegos and feel that it falls within the requirements of the Wikiquote community to be retained, I would appreciate a vote to keep the article. I understand that if you do not believe that the article is worthy of retaining, you will not be able to vote in its favor. Please note that the "Quotes about Gallegos" section was added after the nomination for deletion, so as to provide evidence of 3rd party recognition of his work. Anything resembling promotion of his site will be removed if the article is retained. Sorry for the late notice, but the vote closes: 18:00, 15 December 2016. Thank you for your consideration of this matter, and for all of the good works that you continually contribute to the Wkiquote project. ELApro (talk) 04:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi ELApro. Thanks for your message. Your best bet would be to create a Wikipedia article to establish notability. I think all the Wikiquote editors will abide by Wikipedia's decision. ~ Peter1c (talk) 11:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your wise and highly valued advice. An article on ThoughtAudio has been posted at Wikipedia. ELApro (talk) 13:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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