Talk:Jacob Bronowski
Does anyone know if the "ragamuffin" quote below is from Jacob Bronowski?
"It is important that students bring a certain ragamuffin, barefoot irreverence to their studies; they are not to worship what is known, but to question it."
It's generally attributed to an apparently nonexistent person called Jacob Chanowski. There's a discussion that goes into more detail here: http://forums.techguy.org/civilized-debate/709837-eggys-articles-note-2-a-329.html
--PFrisbie 19:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it appears to be. Adding it to the Wikiquote page now, with source. shreevatsa 20:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Quote removed
editI have remove the following quote:
- The most remarkable discovery ever made by scientists, was science itself.
as it was not Bronowski who said this but Geard Piel (former editor of Scientific American). Bronowski merely quoted it in Magic, Science, and Civilization (1978), properly attributing it to Piel. W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 14:17, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- You might want to reconsider this, see the following more complete quote here:
- The most remarkable discovery made by scientists is science itself. The discovery must be compared in importance with the invention of cave-painting and of writing. Like these earlier human creations, science is an attempt to control our surroundings by entering into them and understanding them from inside. And like them, science has surely made a critical step in human development which cannot be reversed. We cannot conceive a future society without science.
- Jacob Bronowski (Sept. 1958), cited in: Daniel C. Schlenof. "50 Years Ago: Greatest Scientific Discovery is Science Itself," in Scientific American, Aug. 18, 2008.
- The most remarkable discovery made by scientists is science itself. The discovery must be compared in importance with the invention of cave-painting and of writing. Like these earlier human creations, science is an attempt to control our surroundings by entering into them and understanding them from inside. And like them, science has surely made a critical step in human development which cannot be reversed. We cannot conceive a future society without science.
- Also Bronowski uses the same phrase without any quotation marks or attribution in Jacob Bronowski. "Science in the New Humanism," in Leonardo Vol. 18, No. 4, Special Issue: Jacob Bronowski: A Retrospective (1985), pp. 265-269. -- Mdd (talk) 15:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Also in reversed 2011 edition of Ronald C. Pine. Science and the Human Prospect, Ch. 4 : Cultural Roots 1. The Ancient Greeks], 2011 (online available here), the quote is attributed to Jacob Bronowski and there is no mentioning of Geard Piel/Gerard Piel -- Mdd (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Corruption quote
edit"No science is immune to the infection of politics and the corruption of power." Valid quote? --LS1099034 (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Man masters nature
edit"Man masters nature not by force but by understanding. (...)" Valid quote? --LS1099034 (talk) 17:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)