Talk:Richard Wagner

Latest comment: 13 years ago by 184.8.136.38 in topic Bad Source

That's it?

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The best quotes you can find about Wagner? I think I've seen most of them scribbled in toilet stalls.

^^ I was going to write the same thing. Wikiquote creator for Wagner: Congrats for the blog feel. It's important that Wikipedia not be taken seriously, and this kind of page helps.

I created this article. My Wikipedia name is Zaorish, but for some reason it doesn't work on Wikiquote. I will try and source the first quote tonight.


--I asked a friend, who said he'd heard that quote attributed to Wagner by Placido Domingo on a TV program.

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"I hate this fast growing tendency to chain men to machines in big factories and deprive them of all joy in their efforts — the plan will lead to cheap men and cheap products." It is not located in "Art and Revolution" - the only source for this quote comes from a 1903 out of print biography by Elbert Hubbard. I've removed it for this reason. He does not give a source, and there is little evidence that Wagner actually said or wrote it. 184.8.136.38 05:27, 27 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable and precise source for any quote on this list please move it to Richard Wagner.

  • From wisdom, understanding. From understanding, compassion. From compassion, love.
  • I believe that through art all men are saved.
  • I know absolutely nothing about music.
  • I write music with an exclamation mark!
  • After Rossini dies, who will there be to defend his music?
  • Joy is not in things; it is in us.

^ Not from the composer. The proper attribution is to French pastor and author Charles Wagner (1852-1916) as translated into English by Mary Louise Hendee. The quote comes from the book 'The Simple Life' (1901), Section VII 'Simple Pleasures', paragraph 3, last sentence: 'Joy is not in things, it is in us, and I hold to the belief that the causes of our present unrest, of this contagious discontent spreading everywhere, are in us at least as much as in exterior conditions.' http://www.gutenberg.org/files/23092/23092-h/23092-h.htm

About Wagner (unsourced)

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  • Wagner has great moments but dull quarter hours - Rossini
  • Every time I listen to Wagner, I get the urge to invade Poland - Woody Allen, Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993) [1]
  • I love Wagner, but the music I prefer is that of a cat hung up by its tail outside a window, trying to stick to the panes of glass with its claws. - Charles Baudelaire
  • One simply can not judge Wagner's 'Lohengrin' after a first hearing. Pity I don't intend hearing it a second time. - Gioacchino Antonio Rossini
  • The prelude to Wagner's 'Tristan und Isolde' reminds one of the old Italian painting of a martyr whose intestines are slowly unwound from his body on a reel. - Eduard Hanslick
  • I grant you that the 'Nibelungen Ring' is funny, although mythical, but it is not a patch on the story of the coming into being of the Sydney Opera House. - Anna Russel
  • The leitmotiv system of the 'Ring' strikes me as a sort of vast musical city directory. - Claude Debussy
  • The principle of the endless melody is the perpetual becoming of a music that never had any reason for starting, any more than it has any reason for ending. - Igor Stravinsky
  • Wagner's aunt was so musical that when she came to a five-barred gate, she stopped and sang the spots on her veil. - Beachcomber
  • "The peculiar characteristic of classical music is that it is really so much better than it sounds,” Bill Nye (1850-1896) in September 1887, often cited as "Wagner's music is better than it sounds" and attribuated to Mark Twain.
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