Talk:Cecil Rhodes

Latest comment: 6 years ago by 195.67.149.171 in topic "The moon too"

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  • How can I possibly dislike a sex to which Your Majesty belongs?
  • I have found out one thing and that is, if you have an idea, and it is a good idea, if you only stick to it you will come out all right.
  • So little done, so much to do.
  • The real fact is that I could no longer stand their eternal cold mutton.
    • (On why he left England for South Africa)
  • We must find new lands from which we can easily obtain raw materials and at the same time exploit the cheap slave labour that is available from the natives of the colonies. The colonies would also provide a dumping ground for the surplus goods produced in our factories.
    • I doubt the existence of any quotation in which Rhodes talks of the prospects for exploiting slave labour. Direct British involvement in the slave trade ended before Rhodes was born, and by the time of his birth they were vehemently opposed to it. Furthermore, the text is misspelt- it uses the dialect of the USA, not English. --Grant McKenna 09:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
    • "cheap slave labour" quote is also disputed at Wikipedia talk page. ~ Ningauble 16:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
    • The earliest use of this quote that I have been able to find is 1976: Michael Little & ‎Brian Noone, Australian economic ties with South Africa. Fitzroy, Vic.: International Development Action, 1976. Page 5. Next is: Bhattacharya, Debesh. The Indian Journal of Economics, 1978. Page 181. Perhaps these sources could be checked.

save the forty million inhabitants of the United Kingdom

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The original source seems to be w:William Thomas Stead's "The History of the Mystery, Or, The Story of the Jameson Raid" (1896?). Cf. w:Max Beer: Der moderne englische Imperialismus. In: w:Die Neue Zeit, 1898, p. 304 library.fes.de and Lenin's Imperialism (1917) chapter VI marxists.org. Could somebody with access to Stead's History please verify? --Vsop.de (talk) 15:28, 25 February 2013 (UTC) Max Beer's essay is reprinted in English translation in Discovering Imperialism: Social Democracy to World War I, edited by Richard B. Day, Daniel Gaido. Leiden: brill, 2012. [p. 104]Reply

Wikipedia is a great source and resource for anti-England writings

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QUOTE: Rhodes profited greatly by exploiting Southern Africa's natural resources END OF QUOTE.

These kinds of insertions are merely one-sided perspective. When thinking of Africa, let us first start with Cannibalism,wherein at some of the Africans were eating each other. As to slavery, it was a tradition in Africa, and South Asia, rather than anything the rascal who wrote the main article things. For the realities of Asian slavery, check the old time writing: Slavery in the Indian Subcontinent (find it on archive dot org). The slavery that can be seen in Asia and Africa cannot be created by Cecil Rhodes even if tried for a 1000 years.

"The moon too"

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Jan Morris has an intriguing quote from Rhodes, cited in either Pax Britannica (1968) or its sequel Farewell the Trumpets (1977). After saying something about the inherent right of the British to dominate the world (not quoted directly by Morris) he is supposed to have said: "the moon too, I often think of that". :) Damn good quote - can somebody please find its original source and note it (in full) here at Wikiquote? 195.67.149.171 15:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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