Wikiquote:Requests for checkuser/Jusjih
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The result was: Successful application.--Poetlister 23:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jusjih (talk · contributions) edit
I am delighted to nominate Jusjih as Checkuser. We very much need another one, and it would be hard to find a better candidate. Jusjih is an admin here (the only one with import rights), an admin and bureaucrat on several other projects, and a steward. He will be a great asset to the project.--Cato 21:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I accept the nomination. While administering 11 Wikimedia sites, I am very busy and cannot come to all of them daily, but I come to them at least weekly. I am most active on Chinese Wikisource. However, as I accept email and I check my in-box daily, emailing me is the fastest way to catch my attention wherever you are emailing from, in case a site that I administer needs quick action. Thanks to Cato for the nomination.--Jusjih 00:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (with adminship on Meta, Commons, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and Wikisource as well)[reply]
- Support as nominator.--Cato 21:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Obviously well qualified.--Yehudi 07:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support ~ Kalki 08:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. - InvisibleSun 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Will {talk) 18:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong support. Right on, nom. BD2412 T 20:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I don't see why not Red4tribe 22:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. --Aphaia 07:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. ~ UDScott 12:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support A fine admin, here and on Wikisource.--Poetlister 11:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. He's already been of great help to us as an admin. But I would also like to encourage the community to consider selecting one additional checkuser as well, preferably one whose work is not spread out over many projects. I expect Aphaia to continue to serve us well in this capacity, and Jusjih to contribute significantly, but Cato is currently doing the lion's share of the work, followed by me as an increasingly distant second. I plan to resign my checkuser status as soon as a new CU is ratified, so I'd like to get the ball rolling for another CU, one who can commit to a major focus on English Wikiquote. (I have personally found that diligent and accurate CU work can be compromised when spreading oneself too thinly.) This would bring us up to 2 front-line CUs and 2 less-directly active CUs, which strikes me as a good balance for the current state and requirements of our project. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Maxim(talk) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Based on the said need, and that this user is on Wikisource, support for now. Emesee 09:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- With 3 Checkusers already and just over 15,000 pages, is it necessary to have a 4th CU ?...--Cometstyles 04:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Page count is irrelevant. What matters is how much work there is to do, and how much time the CUs have to do it. We currently have 1 very active CU and 2 less active ones (Aphaia because she wears many hats, and I because I'm preoccupied with real-world matters). Wikis are the work of the willing and able, and it's far too common for smaller communities to have only a handful of people willing and able to tackle this sensitive and challenging work with the approval of the community. When too few people carry that load, they can burn out easily. As I said above, I plan to resign as soon as we have a new CU, so we won't be adding any. If we don't get one soon, I may resign anyhow due to circumstances, and we'll be down to 1 active and 1 semi-active, which I can assure you is not adequate for the demands of this project. (I'd prefer not to be more specific about this in public, as these discussions tend to feed vandals who look for vulnerable wikis from which to launch cross-project vandalism.) This is why, in my experience, I recommended above that we have 2 active CUs and 2 less-active ones to back them up and provide their significant cross-project experience to aid in sensitive CU matters. Moving forward on this cannot be done too soon. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Once again, I would like to say that with email accepted, whenever I am needed to check users, I will respond to emails as soon as I can even if I am more active elsewhere. Without at least 12 more supports, I cannot generally check here, except in emergencies or for multi-project CheckUser checks as in the case of cross-wiki vandalism, per m:CheckUser_policy#Access_to_CheckUser. For those who have supported me, thanks, while I am not withdrawing this nomination, but let us wait for a while.--Jusjih 02:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Page count is irrelevant. What matters is how much work there is to do, and how much time the CUs have to do it. We currently have 1 very active CU and 2 less active ones (Aphaia because she wears many hats, and I because I'm preoccupied with real-world matters). Wikis are the work of the willing and able, and it's far too common for smaller communities to have only a handful of people willing and able to tackle this sensitive and challenging work with the approval of the community. When too few people carry that load, they can burn out easily. As I said above, I plan to resign as soon as we have a new CU, so we won't be adding any. If we don't get one soon, I may resign anyhow due to circumstances, and we'll be down to 1 active and 1 semi-active, which I can assure you is not adequate for the demands of this project. (I'd prefer not to be more specific about this in public, as these discussions tend to feed vandals who look for vulnerable wikis from which to launch cross-project vandalism.) This is why, in my experience, I recommended above that we have 2 active CUs and 2 less-active ones to back them up and provide their significant cross-project experience to aid in sensitive CU matters. Moving forward on this cannot be done too soon. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- With 3 Checkusers already and just over 15,000 pages, is it necessary to have a 4th CU ?...--Cometstyles 04:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, it is always good to have extra hands on deck, and additional people to discuss CU results with in order to ensure the best outcome. Jusjih is a good candidate to take on this task here at enwq. Jayvdb 04:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Has my confidence also. I've been away in RL and working on Wikipedia and I am a little late but better late then never - Modernist 04:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Sure. Cbrown1023 talk 16:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, good luck. Giggy 02:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Looks ok to me! Ripberger 02:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I absolutely agree with Jeffq on his thinking about need and focus. My edit count here is low but I have worked with Jusjih, a fellow steward on other projects and vouch for his abilities, trustworthiness, and dedication to the projects. It would be a shame to see this fail for lack of supports, so perhaps folk ought to scour a bit for more supports. ++Lar: t/c 12:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Candidate's past work solid. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων 03:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This must be important if there's a site notice so I'll agree with everyone.--Crum375 09:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Me, too! - Arbok 16:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - well trusted. --Herby talk thyme 11:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - of course :) - Alison ❤ 17:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Jusjih is well trusted on other projects and is more than able to fulfill this function. Bastique 18:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not sure whether to recognise this vote. Bastique is a steward, but he has only ever made 19 edits on WQ, the last in May 2007.--Poetlister 20:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In general, we've recognized votes from any English Wikiquote registered user who has made at least a few meaningful contributions to Wikiquote, does not appear to have done so solely to make their presence known for a vote, and has not violated any other policies or caused disruptions. I believe Bastique qualifies by this practice. His edits to several articles (adding/editing quotes and updating Commons material) and his anti-vandalism moves are more than some occasional users have done and rather more diverse than many newbies who we'd happily count. For CU votes specifically, we've had some votes for all current CUs (myself included) that, in my humble opinion, test the idea of "meaningful contributions". For that reason, it would be unfair to Jusjih not to count this vote. But the community might want to take up the question of just how much one must have contributed before votes on such a sensitive subject are counted. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 23:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This vote is visible for all visitors thanks to sitenotice; whoever visit the site may not fail to recognize it. I've talked to Bastique sometimes about ENWQ, so I'm rather pleased he looks for this project too (we are around same IRC channels, so there are many chances for me to talk with him). And Cato and I sometimes input our own vandal report to share with other CUs. Any CUs may have reasons to give a look. In addition, I've very recently communicated with him about the project, so it's not strange for him to visit the site, and join the vote, specially if he really agrees on necessity of granting the right. --Aphaia 05:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, we have 25 votes and I am content that they are all valid. We've had well over two weeks. As nominator, I will not close this, so can someone else, please?--Cato 21:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not sure whether to recognise this vote. Bastique is a steward, but he has only ever made 19 edits on WQ, the last in May 2007.--Poetlister 20:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion closed; community approved unanimously.--Poetlister 23:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for your supports. I have reported this to m:Steward_requests/Permissions. Whenever you need me, emailing is the fastest way.--Jusjih 01:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Good luck Jusjih, I'm sure your new role will be a great help to the team here. Completed per request at Meta. ++Lar: t/c 01:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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