User talk:Spannerjam

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Enjoy! -- Cirt (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Looking for proverbs?

Wikiquote:Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations/Proverbs has a listing of several hundred fully formatted proverbs, reported as such in Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations (1922), p. 639-43. Please feel free to copy these over and stick them in the English proverbs page; quotes that have been moved, or are duplicates of existing material, can be deleted from the project page. Cheers! BD2412 T 17:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Spanish proverbs

Great work on resurrecting these proverbs pages! As to your question regarding the previously deleted material, I'm not sure how to restore them once you recreate the page. Unless someone more technically-savvy than I can explain, another approach would be to request the reinstatement of them onto a Talk page prior to you recreating the page. I would be happy to do so in this case (and I would have also restored the Spanish ones as well, but I can't see how to get to that history). Thanks! ~ UDScott (talk) 14:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why we can't just undelete the underlying history. Then anyone who wanted could look at a prior version and copy its contents to the talk page. Cheers! BD2412 T 17:41, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I am sure you are right (I knew there had to be a way), but I just didn't see the link - my bad. I will restore these to the Talk page. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, I've restored the deleted quotes to Talk:Spanish proverbs and Talk:Polish proverbs, awaiting sourcing. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:07, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Could you please do this with Latvian and Danish proverbs as well? --Spannerjam (talk) 21:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Removal of newly created proverb articles

Hi Spannerjam. I replied to your enquiry on my talk page. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:24, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Requesting deletions

I have deleted the pages Dominican proverbs, on which you wrote "This page can become deleted," and Ingush proverbs, on which you wrote "This page can be removed." There may be others that I did not notice.

In the future, please use the {{delete | reason}} template to request deletion. That way it will show up in the appropriate maintenance category where the request will be noticed. Thanks. ~ Ningauble (talk) 18:37, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Aramaic proverbs

I'm afraid that the one proverb on that page is Hebrew, not Aramaic. (The whole of the Mishnah is in Hebrew.) I'll move it, and find something really in Aramaic.--Abramsky (talk) 21:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

English proverbs

Hi Spannerjam. Please consider joining a discussion about changes to the English proverbs article at Talk:English proverbs#Subject headings and Talk:English proverbs#Removal of historical citations and proverbs. Thank you. ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

English proverbs redlinks

Hi. Rather than unlinking the redlinked section headers in English proverbs, please consider helping to create topic pages for those links to lead to. For example, Eggs has four proverbs listed, which would be an excellent start to a page on that theme, and would be helpful to anyone looking for quotes about eggs. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:55, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

It is a bit late for that; I have already deleted all redlinks. --Spannerjam (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I intend to restore them. Cheers! BD2412 T 23:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

By the way, have you ever had a look at the Hoyt's proverbs page? I messaged you about it above. The quotes are fully sourced and formatted. Obviously some will be duplicates to what you already have. Cheers again! BD2412 T 02:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes I did! Way back in february. --Spannerjam (talk) 05:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Credit where credit is due

In your recent addition to Wives,[1] the source you cite clearly attributes the quote to Lord Burleigh. Why would you omit information about the origin of the quote? It only takes a minute or two on Google to identify the exact origin and give credit where credit is due.[2] ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Cattle

Hi Spannerjam. Your request for clarification here has been answered by providing a historical quotation with context. Regards, Ningauble (talk) 14:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ningauble! Thank you for your swift and ambitious help. --Spannerjam (talk) 21:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

On serpents and dragons

Hi, Spannerjam. "A serpent, unless it devours a serpent, does not become a dragon" probably has the same meaning as "The great fish eat the small." See here:

A serpent, unless it devours a serpent, will not become a dragon. The powerful grow at the expense of others, and the fortunes of the nobility would not increase as they do, had they no victims whom they can suck dry. Just so, among fish and beasts, the larger live by butchering the smaller.

P.S. Let me take this opportunity to thank you for all your work on proverb pages. It doesn't go unnoticed! Cheers, DanielTom (talk) 09:35, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Humanity quote.

The quote from The Event is a good quote, but every quote has a (non-fictional) author. There must be a screenwriter to whom that episode is credited, and they should be acknowledged in our citation. Cheers! BD2412 T 14:02, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Proverbs

I realize you have worked extensively on the proverbs pages, probably to a greater extent than anyone, but I cannot understand why you are removing so many recently. I am only briefly checking in today, and am not concerned enough to get too involved in the issue, but as these seem to be well-cited proverbs, I can't perceive any clear reason for their removal. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 09:15, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi! The reason for the deletions is to make sure the proverbs here on Wikiquote got the most possible brevity. For example, only having variants of "Well begun is half done" instead of also having variants of "A good beginning makes a good ending" is better, in my opinion. This is because "Well begun is half done" is more rhytmical, and therefore more easy to remember. "Well begun is half done" is also closer to the meaning of both these proverbs, which is that having made the right preparations will make a project half as laborious. --Spannerjam (talk) 09:35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I had not responded earlier, because I had lost track of this discussion, amidst other concerns, but now resume with some comments. Though I appreciate that it might often be you who had added the quotes in the first place, I actually cannot agree with such rationale for the removal of quotes, and believe we should collect and maintain quotations, especially those that are widely published, and I am not particularly prone to remove material primarily because of any perceptions of the worth or brevity of one quote relative to any other quotes upon a subject. I believe variants of specific quotes should be gathered and retained, and especially believe variant and differing expressions on themes should be retained, and that some should not be excluded primarily or merely because others are perceived as "better." I much prefer there be broad diversity of options available to human thought, rather than overly rigorous constraints placed upon opportunities for expanding many forms of awareness and appreciation of often subtle nuances of expressions or even conceivably vitally important discernment that can be awakened in some people by some cues, and not by others. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 05:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)