Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Kaihsu in topic apocryphal?

Unsourced quotes edit

I removed the unsourced quotes since Gorbachev is a living person, and in general unsourced material about a living person shouldn't be included. How do we know he said any of these things without sources? Steve Dufour 22:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

I much prefer to preserve and build upon most of what exists rather than simply remove it from consideration. We have had sections for unsourced quotes of people since the beginning of the project over 4 years ago. Ideally quotes should be sourced, and I strongly recommend making attempts to source quotes added to pages, but if quotations are widely attributed to a person then people should be able to place them on Wikiquote pages in "Unsourced" sections. I rarely add "unsourced" quotes anywhere anymore, and much of my work here now involves sourcing what I have time to, but I do not recommend the removal of quotes which are not obvious vandalism (as at least one of them appeared to have been), especially if they are widely attributed and easily found in a general internet search or Google Book Search. I would much prefer people to take interest in adding interesting source quotes and sourcing things already here properly rather than either adding or erasing unsourced material. ~ Kalki 00:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Coming from Wikipedia where there is almost a paranoia about unsourced material on living persons, it seemed kind of odd to me that here that lists of unsourced quotes would be given about them. I could see it about an historical person where it couldn't be confirmed or disproven that they said them. But for living persons it seems like there could be problems. Steve Dufour 03:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Nobel Address edit

The translation of the first quote doesn't take into consideration the fact that Rusiian "mir" may mean both "peace", "world", "high society" and "village community" in different contexts 89.231.108.171 19:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

apocryphal? edit

What is the source of this quote? If there is no source, it is a made-up quote misattributed to him. Kaihsu (talk) 19:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

This is doing the rounds on social media, without source: "The [unsourced] most puzzling[unsourced] development in[unsourced] politics during the[unsourced] last decade[unsourced] is the apparent[unsourced] determination of Western [unsourced] European leaders to[unsourced] re-create the Soviet[unsourced] Union in Western[unsourced] Europe." Kaihsu (talk) 19:48, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

And before anyone cites this as a source, I would ask them to "question more": https://www.rt.com/op-edge/359327-soviet-union-eu-history/ Kaihsu (talk) 03:46, 26 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

It even got this far: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commissioners/2014-2019/andriukaitis/blog/likening-eu-ussr-not-unreasonable_en (archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20200228074501/https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commissioners/2014-2019/andriukaitis/blog/likening-eu-ussr-not-unreasonable_en) Kaihsu (talk) 10:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

I am making the quotation hard to copy and paste because some stupid people are reproducing it without context, as a verified quote! Horror. Kaihsu (talk) 19:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
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