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A quote commonly attributed to Martin LutherEdit

Can someone offer help regarding this quote which is often attributed to Martin Luther as having been said at The Diet of Worms: "Since your Majesty and your Lordships ask for a plain answer, I will give you one without either horns or teeth. Unless I am convicted by Scripture or by right reason (for I trust neither in popes nor in councils, since they have often erred and contradicted themselves) - unless I am thus convinced, I am bound by the texts of the Bible, my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Is this a true quote? Was their a transcription of The Diet of Worms? Was it said by Luther at any point? I've seen it listed in books such as "The Life and Letters of Martin Luther" by Persevered Smith and many other books which quote the Persevered Smith book, but is their any original material that supports this claim - I was unable to gauge Persevered Smith's research into this matter. Does the quote exist anywhere prior to Persevered Smith's work?

A quote commonly attributed to Martin LutherEdit

"Why don't you fart nor burp? Wasn't the food to your liking?" would be the translation of a quote attributed to M. L. in Germany. (The German version: "Warum furzet und rülpset ihr nicht? Hat es euch nicht geschmecket?" - sometimes it's "das Essen" instead of "es".) I wondered why the quote hasn't been listed yet; but perhaps it isn't as famous in the English speaking world than in the German speaking one. Anyway, I'm German myself. --85.177.153.196 17:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

UnsourcedEdit

  • Idiots, the lame, the blind, the dumb, are men in whom the devils have established themselves: and all the physicians who heal these infirmities, as though they proceeded from natural causes, are ignorant blockheads.
  • Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.
    • Said to be from V, 1312
  • Sin cannot tear you away from him [Christ], even though you commit adultery a hundred times a day and commit as many murders.
  • There is no more lovely, friendly and charming relationship, communion or company than a good marriage.
  • We are all ministers of the Gospel. Some of us just happen to be clergymen.
  • Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his reason.
    • Said to be from V, 425
  • Nothing good ever comes of violence
  • The more you wash, the dirtier you get. (diary)
  • Anyone who is to find Christ must first find the church. How could anyone know where Christ is and what faith is in him unless he know where his believers are?

"The organ in the worship of God is an ensign of Baal. The Roman Catholic borrowed it from the Jews."Edit

A while back while doing a quick reading on the Wikipedia A capella article, it said that Martin Luther opposed instruments. The sources there said that he opposed them, i.e. “^ Martin Luther, Mcclintock & Strong's Encyclopedia Volume VI, page 762,” are off-line. When I used them in a Google search, I quickly got this, Bible Topics In The Christian Library, a site that seem to oppose instrumental music, but it had an interesting quote allegedly from Luther: "The organ in the worship of God is an ensign of Baal. The Roman Catholic borrowed it from the Jews." I wonder if it could be used in related articles here.174.137.237.65 19:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

In The Baptist Magazine (1818), section "On Music in Churches", the question is asked: Is it lawful for Christians, when they are assembled together for divine worship, to unite instrumental music with vocal in the worship of God?
Relevant part of the answer: It [instrumental music] is retained in the Lutheran church, contrary to the opinion of Luther, who, as Eckard confesses, reckoned organs among the ensigns of Baal. [1]
The quote you cite is most likely a paraphrase. ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

AttributedEdit

"God creates out of nothing, therefore, until a man is nothing, God can make nothing out of him." Cannot find any reference to a primary source, but this (or equivalent translations) are widely published as a Luther quote.75.130.135.17 02:06, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

CopernicusEdit

This quote from his Table Talk seems to be a better attested than White's book (which is questionable by 21st century scholarship). However, I do not have access to the cited source - I am only relying on a second-hand citation from a net resource. It seems to be more researched, but I don't know. I'm being bold in the chance that is better than White. Can someone verify or correct this? TomS TDotO (talk) 17:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)