Talk:Julius Caesar

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GraffitiEdit

Where should the graffiti versions of "Veni, vidi, vici" ("Vidi, vici, veni", "Vici, veni, VD") be put? -- Jimregan 18:56, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Probably on List of misquotations. Nanobug 14:34, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How about a separate page for Famous graffiti? Such as 'Kilroy was here', etc. with a bit of history. -- Gaurav 17:56, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Julius Caesar's last words will always be a forum of great debate......graffiti shouldn't be (A Adamson)

This is what I have done, and I am Caesar.Edit

Does anybody know whether the following quote is actually by Julius Caesar?

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done, and I am Caesar."

This statement has also been wrongly attributed to William Shakespeare, but the actual author is unknown. The article on it at Snopes.com states : "No record of this quote has been found prior to its appearance on the Internet in late 2001." I have now added a "Misattributions" section with this in it. ~ Achilles 06:23, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

QuestionEdit

I recall Caesar saying something about war giving the right to the victors to give whatever conditions they want to the vanquished (or something along those lines). Any further information on this?

That was Brennus -- the Latin is "Vae Victis" Jhf 01:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"Iacta alea est" or "Alea iacta est"?Edit

Since both versions of this phrase have a lot of currency, I looked around and discovered an online source in Latin of Suetonius' Divus Iulius, which shows in Paragraph 33 that the phrase is "Iacta alea est." This is also the version used in Bartlett's Familiar Quotations and The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations. I will include a link to the Suetonius in my revision of the quote. - InvisibleSun 13:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

GNU FortuneEdit

I love treason but hate a traitor.

               -- Gaius Julius Caesar

UnsourcedEdit

Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable, precise and verifiable source for any quote on this list please move it to Julius Caesar. --Antiquary 16:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

  • As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can.
  • I would rather be first in a little Iberian village than second in Rome.
    • On his way to Spain
  • It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.
  • Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi?
    • You too, Brutus, my son?
    • This appeared in William Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar as "Et tu, Brute" ("And you, also, Brutus?"), though Caesar's actual last words are unknown. They have been reported to be Greek, not Latin: "Καὶ σὺ τέκνον;" meaning "And you, child?"
  • The future of the world rests on my shoulders and the gods of the seas rest in my hand.
  • To prefer my friendship to that of those who have always been his and my bitter enemies, by whose machinations the country has been brought to its present impasse.
    • In a request from Caesar to Pompey for a resolution to the impending civil war.
  • Caeser's wife must be above suspicion.

"Fear itself"Edit

Moved from the main article, because this alleged quote has no source, neither primary nor a secondary source referring to the origin of this legend. —85.178.66.138 16:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Nihil nobis metuendum est, praeter metum ipsum. [Nota bene: Which is the historical source from Antiquity that contains this Latin saying, allegedly by Caesar? It seems to be completely unkown/invented/dubious. There is a similar one by Seneca (Ep. Mor. ad Luc. 3.24.12: scies nihil esse in istis terribile nisi ipsum timorem), but Seneca is not Caesar.]
    • We have not to fear anything, except fear itself.
    • By legend [Nota bene: What legend? A modern internet legend? 19th century false scholarship? Shakespeare again? Mediaeval legend about Caesar? An ancient rumor? Sources please.] Caesar told it to his wife Calpurnia, who was praying him not to go to the Senate, where, as she saw in dream, he would die.
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