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"I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment."

               -- Gotama Buddha

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This might be from a Mahāyāna sutra but I guarantee that it does not appear in the Pāli Canon and is therefore not attributable to the historical Buddha. -Metalello 01:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Alternative translation for "Do not go by revelation;..."Edit

This is a much more readable translation, but as i cannot read the original i just put it here, maybe someone who can could decide whether it's accurate enough to put it on the main page as an alternative translation.

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

Kills without drawing bloodEdit

The internet has this all over as a Gautama quote, but I can't find it sourced anywhere...

"The tongue like a sharp knife... Kills without drawing blood."

Does anyone here know if this is attributed correctly, and/or where it's from more specifically? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.70.239.190 (talk) 14:16, 4 November 2010

Not Buddha, this is just one of those proverbial "Chinese proverbs." In the mid 20th century it was popular to attribute it to Confucius, and attributions to Buddha only appear towards the end of the 20th century. The earliest English rendering I find in print is Adam Grainger, Western Mandarin, or the Spoken Language of Western China (1900, Shanghai: American Presbyterian Mission Press), p. 149, where it is identified (in the index) as a proverb about slander: "the tip of the tongue kills without drawing blood." (The translation is literal. An idiomatic English translation would be "the sharp tongue...") ~ Ningauble 17:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I concur with this assessment but a similar statement does appear in the Sutta Nipata, verse 657: 'To (every) man that is born, an axe is born in his mouth, by which the fool cuts himself, when speaking bad language.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/sbe1035.htm Metalello 01:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Dhammapada?Edit

The Dhammapada section in this article is larger and non-duplicative of the separate Dhammapada article on wikiquote. Considering the numbers of quotations from the Dhammapada, the significance of that text, and the potential for growth (in further quotations from the text), it seems to me that we should move the Dhammapada section in Gautama Buddha to the separate article Dhammapada with a clear reference accordingly. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. Thanks. tartaruga 17:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

This seems reasonable. Two things we should be careful of:
  1. Since the original work is obviously not in English, we need published translations. To avoid potential copyright violations in either article, we should use a public-domain translation as a source. For simplicity, I would recommend vetting all quotes against s:Dhammapada (Muller), a Wikisource article that uses the translation from a 19th-century book edited by F. Max Muller, putting it well out of copyright.
  2. It would be nice to credit contributors to this article's Dhammapada section with their contributions at Talk:Dhammapada. However, I don't believe it's necessary by our license requirements, because those contributions remain available through both articles' edit histories. Just be sure to include an edit summary that makes clear the material was transferred from this article.
Thanks for bringing this up. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
All seem to me quite reasonable. It will be nice to reconstruct relevant articles (one question: we have already Suttanipaka?; spelling might be wrong) Aphaia 20:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • As per the discussion above, I moved the Dhammapada section in Gautama Buddha to its own wikiquote article, Dhammapada. I tried to maintain the original quotations as much as possible, but, due to copyright concerns (explained above), I had to significantly change much of the original material to conform to publically available sources.
I removed a few of the many Dhammapada external links in Gautama Buddha considering that Dhammapada quotations are now in their own separate entry and no longer here. Links to translations of the Dhammapada thus seem less relevant in this page since there are no quotations to the Dhammapada here. If anything, the links should be removed and added to the Dhammapada article. Thoughts? (Since the edit was undone, I am guessing that their is an objection to their removal). Thanks. tartaruga 15:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Since there was no objection, I moved the Dhammapada external links to the Dhammapada entry (joining the Dhammapada quotations which were formerly part of this entry). If there are any objections, please voice them here before reverting the edit. Thank you. tartaruga 17:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

"There is no wealth like knowledge, and no poverty like ignorance."Edit

I'm pretty sure Ali said that...

UnsourcedEdit

Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable and precise source for any quote on this list please move it to Gautama Buddha. --Antiquary 19:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

  • The no-mind not-thinks no thoughts about no things.
  • This existence of ours is as transient as autumn clouds,
To watch the birth and death of beings is like looking at the movements of a dance,
A lifetime is like a flash of lightning in the sky,
Rushing by, like a torrent down a steep mountain
  • Know all things to be like this,
A mirage, a cloud castle
A dream, an apparition,
Without essence but with qualities that can be seen,
Know all things to be like this,
As the moon in a bright sky,
In some clear lake reflected,
Though to that lake the moon has never moved,
Know all things to be like this,
As an echo that derives,
From music, sounds and weeping,
Yet in that echo is no melody
Know all things to be like this,
As a magician makes illusions,
Of horses, oxen, carts and other things,
Nothing is as it appears
  • Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
  • Joy comes not through possession or ownership but through a wise and loving heart.
  • People with opinions just go around bothering each other.
  • There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it.
  • There is no way to Happiness. Happiness is the way.
  • Teach this triple truth to all: A generous heart, kind speech, and a life of service and compassion are the things which renew humanity.
  • It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
  • There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.
  • There are two mistakes one can make along the road to truth - not going all the way, and not starting.
  • The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.
  • Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
  • Every human being is the author of his own health or disease.
  • The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground.
  • Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.
  • Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned.
  • When a man has pity on all living creatures then only is he noble.

unsorced quotes about Gautama BuddhaEdit

  • Buddha conquered the lands of China, Japan, entire South-east Asia, Burma, Indonesia, Java, Sumatra, Sri Lanka and other countries without sending out even one soldier; he spread the message of karuna (mercy), prema (compassion), samanata (equality) and atmasanyam ( tolerance) throughout the world many centuries before Jesus and Mohammad; even today the flame of his sandesha ( message) lights up the whole world and entire humanity with the soft glow of manavatavadi (humanitarian), vaidhnyanik (scientific) and addhatmik (spiritual) message of India.
    • J. K. Verma — no citations of wide notabilty or even scholarly relevance found for this person, thus far (2011·12·07)

Additional namesEdit

If I make mistake dont jump on wagon attackin me, this is from my memory, and it's good. Buddha is also known as:

one who has achieved a state of perfect enlightenment
Gautama Buddha
Gautama Siddhartha
prince, this could be contributed in more that one area
—This unsigned comment is by 66.2.70.66 (talkcontribs) . & : —This unsigned comment is by 69.219.216.130 (talkcontribs) .

The Kalamas's DilemmaEdit

The following quote is in the disputed section:

Believe nothing, O monks, merely because you have been told it … or because it is traditional, or because you yourselves have imagined it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings—that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.

It's clearly part of the 'The Kalamas's Dilemma' which is from Anguttara Nikaya. The same part of the 'The Kalamas's Dilemma' is already quoted from a different translation. PhilKnight (talk) 20:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Resource for misattributionsEdit

See http://www.fakebuddhaquotes .com/ There are so many hundreds it's hard to say which merit inclusion here but certainly some of them do for being so widespread. (Note: the spam filter won't let me link it directly.) —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)