Talk:Epictetus

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Pasicles in topic Removal of the Golden Sayings section


Unsourced edit

Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable and precise source for any quote on this list please move it to Epictetus. --Antiquary 18:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • Happiness is not in strength, wealth, power, or all three. It lies in ourself, in true freedom, conquest of ignoble fear, perfect self-government, in power of contentment, and the even flow of life, even in poverty, exile, disease, and the very Valley of the Shadow of Death.
  • It is not the facts and events that upset man, but the view he takes of them.
  • Tentative efforts lead to tentative outcomes. Therefore, give yourself fully to your endeavors. Decide to construct your character through excellent actions, and determine to pay the price for a worthy goal. The trials you encounter will introduce you to your strengths. Remain steadfast... and one day you will build something that endures, something worthy of your potential.
  • The essence of philosophy is that a man should live so that his happiness depends as little as possible from external causes.
  • Don't explain your philosophy. Embody it
  • Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants.

Fragments edit

What is the numbering scheme used in identifying Epictetus' Fragments? I looked at two different sources for "Nature hath given men one tongue…" and they both identified it as CXLII, while here it is identified as VI. --Hughh (talk) 00:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

If you are going out of the house to bathe, put before your mind what happens at a public bath edit

The quotation "If you are going out of the house to bathe, put before your mind what happens at a public bath..." is often quoted. It appears in his discourses. See: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Epictetus,_the_Discourses_as_reported_by_Arrian,_the_Manual,_and_Fragments/Manual It would be good to add this quote to the page. Thanks! --Lbeaumont (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Removal of the Golden Sayings section edit

Anyone mind if I remove the Hastings Crossley "Golden Sayings" section. There's several problems with it. There's no ancient work called the Golden Sayings. It's Crossley's random compilation of stuff from the works of Epictetus. The translations are very bad, straying into paraphrase territory. The source of the passages are not marked, and hence are hard to locate. The stuff under "Fragments" belong to a Byzantine-era list of Epictetus sayings which are now rejected by scholars and no longer appear in moderen editions of Epictetus. Pasicles (talk) 10:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

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